Topic: Battle of the Five Armies (Read 9517 times)

Lines · « **on:** 04 Dec 2014, 20:36 »

My husband and I scored passes to a small preview of this and holy crap, it was awesome. The only spoiler I'm giving is that Dain has the best entrance.

SubaruStephen · « **Reply #1 on:** 04 Dec 2014, 20:52 »

How does compare to the other two Hobbit films?

Kugai · « **Reply #2 on:** 04 Dec 2014, 22:34 »

I'm hoping to be able to go see this on the Big Screen sometime over Christmas.

Looks frakin' good.

Lines · « **Reply #3 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 03:39 »

Quote from: SubaruStephen on 04 Dec 2014, 20:52

How does compare to the other two Hobbit films?

I think it's on par with the other two. I need to rewatch the first two movies before we see the third one again before I can give a more detailed critique of that, though.

Edguy · « **Reply #4 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 03:58 »

The second one was significantly better than the first tho.

LeeC · « **Reply #5 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 07:57 »

Meh, my thoughts: Desolation of Smaug

Lines · « **Reply #6 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 11:34 »

Quote from: Edguy on 05 Dec 2014, 03:58

The second one was significantly better than the first tho.

I haven't seen since they were in theaters, so I really mean it when I say I need to rewatch the first two.

Also Lee, your speculation definitely does not happen.

Edguy · « **Reply #7 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 11:44 »

Second one was definitively not without flaws, but it had significantly less ridiculous slapstick and stupid humor (the river scene is somewhat excused since it was actually sort of cool). That stuff totally took me out of the story. How can I possibly be expected to care about the characters' welfare after seeing them fall a hundred feet down sharp rocks without as much as a bruise or a sprained wrist. Or that whole goblin chase scene. That, and the fact that the second one had Smaug. Dragons are always +1.

LeeC · « **Reply #8 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 12:06 »

Quote from: Linds on 05 Dec 2014, 11:34

Also Lee, your speculation definitely does not happen.

Oh thank god!

LeeC · « **Reply #9 on:** 12 Dec 2014, 07:47 »

Aimless · « **Reply #10 on:** 12 Dec 2014, 12:05 »

This is the first of Peter Jackson's LotR movies with which I've been WHOLLY satisfied, from the beginning right through to the closing credits.

Kugai · « **Reply #11 on:** 12 Dec 2014, 12:07 »

LeeC, we've got a 'Video not available due to Copyright Infringement' message on that Vid.

Lines · « **Reply #12 on:** 12 Dec 2014, 12:27 »

Quote from: Aimless on 12 Dec 2014, 12:05

This is the first of Peter Jackson's LotR movies with which I've been WHOLLY satisfied, from the beginning right through to the closing credits.

That's how I felt. Also I really enjoy how the closing credits song is sung by Billy Boyd. (Also I think it's one of my favorite closing songs from the whole series now.)

Masterpiece · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 09:54 »

I've watched the first Hobbit movie and despite absolutely hating the third LoTR movie, the Hobbit was surprisingly not bad. It helped that I had read the book.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 19:24 »

Did you actually hate the whole RotK movie or just its thirty-seven endings?

Masterpiece · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 22:16 »

I hated the SLOW MO FOR DRAMA that the entire movie is based on. God, it gets boring quick.

The story wasn't that good either.

Kugai · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 22:19 »

I think if PJ had thought about it, he could have distilled those multiple endings down into one.

Have Sam, perhaps now older, adding in the 'Endings' in The Red Book with Astin doing a Voice-over of what he's writing. Might have taken five or ten minutes of time at the end, but if he'd done it that way, you wouldn't have had all those confusing multiple endings.

pwhodges · « **Reply #17 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 11:17 »

But the book had multiple endings anyway. When I finished up my Evangelion fanfic a couple of weeks ago, a reader commented of the penultimate chapter that it was "like a Tolkien ending the way it wrapped up each inner story in turn - but it didn't go on for so long".

Lines · « **Reply #18 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 03:36 »

RotK is entirely made up of endings. That wasn't PJ's fault, that was Tolkien's.

Edguy · « **Reply #19 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 10:02 »

For all his great world building and attention to detail, Tolkien was perhaps not the best at crafting good dramatic arcs.

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #20 on:** 21 Jan 2015, 00:46 »

For someone who disliked some of the Jackson edits, there's a new "Tolkein" cut you can try that covers the whole trilogy. https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/

ThePerilsOfDan · « **Reply #21 on:** 01 Feb 2016, 15:51 »

Quote from: SubaruStephen on 04 Dec 2014, 20:52

How does compare to the other two Hobbit films?

I watched the first one and went "Eh, well, they had to tie into the Trilogy somehow." i watched the second one and was like "Oh, come on. Orcs along the river during the barrel ride? Orcs in Laketown? Puh-lease." It was just far too egregious a trangression that Peter Jackson committed against a book that I've first read as an 8-year old, long before I discovered the Trilogy. I still have not seen Battle of the Five Armies and will only do so when/if it is on television during a non-election year so I don't have to watch any goddam political commercials during it.

Kugai · « **Reply #22 on:** 01 Feb 2016, 19:25 »

Still, there were some things that should have been left in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_nloHPklfM

Tova · « **Reply #23 on:** 02 Feb 2016, 11:41 »

For mine, it's not so much the thirty-seven endings (which, as already pointed out, are in the book anyway). It's more that, in the film, the character of those endings cross that fine line from sentimental firmly into mawkish.

I found the second film has the same problem, albeit to a lesser extent.

FotR is the only film I really enjoyed. Yes, I realise that I'm in a tiny minority.

It's kind of gratifying that people are no longer entirely uncritical of everything that Peter Jackson does.

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