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WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
BenRG:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 10 Dec 2014, 08:15 ---Do boys tend to start building identity by modeling men? Pretty much. Is that a good thing? I'm gonna have to say no.
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The point is that the process is instinctual. So, whether or not it is a 'good' thing is meaningless. It simply imposes upon us the responsibility to be good role models. Unfortunately, it doesn't always happen.
ankhtahr:
I wasn't so sure about it, but after rereading the archives a little I'd say that Emily and Clinton might actually fit together, if only as friends (hell, any regular social interaction might help Clinton). The way he is invested in AIs, his love for weird follow-ups, it might work. Also between 2068 and 2072 we can see that he is capable of kinda normal human interaction. Sure, he's stepping on some toes there, but it isn't too bad.
Edit: Also compare Emily's and Clinton reactions to seeing Momo.
Cattus:
--- Quote from: plusorminus on 09 Dec 2014, 19:16 ---
--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 09 Dec 2014, 11:31 ---He's also got a massive entitlement complex, he's so protective of Claire that he's almost stifling (trying to take the role of the traditional father who locks a daughter away from potential suitors), and he has no understanding of boundaries.
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Eh, I think that's kind of harsh and a bit unfair. From his response at Emily's party when Claire tells him that she told Marten about being trans, his immediate reaction was "He wasn't a JERK about it, was he?" suggesting that Claire has frequently been the target of bullies. Claire didn't start off her arc having high-flying self esteem, so this may have been an issue. Also, their father fucked over their mother by cheating. That likely pushed Clinton into overdrive, not wanting another male to hurt the women in his life.
Also, Clinton's not, IMO, acted in the way you suggest. He didn't even pitch a fit when Claire told him that she and Marten were dating. He was mildly snarky about it. I actually thought Claire's "can't you be happy for me?!" was a bit overwrought there. It's not like he threatened to castrate Marten or suggesting pistols at dawn or somesuch.
I sort of feel about Clinton what I've felt about Dora. A couple of mistakes and anything they do is viewed through a cynical lens. No one is disputing that Clinton was extremely creepy toward Hannelore. But it's been ages since then and he's acted like less of a disaster in subsequent meetings. He loves his sister. He's not keeping her in shackles or guilt-tripping her for having a life. He's a 21 year old who has had to deal with a lot of shit - losing his hand, losing his father, and adjusting to having a sister. All things considered, he's not such a bad egg, in my view.
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I'm glad someone took the time to write what many of us are thinking. There's no doubt that Clinton presents a crusty or cranky demeanor but I also think it's self (and Claire) preservation and protection. He realizes that he is not a shining example of either machismo or personality and he tries to be 'tough' but I think he's a good person at heart.
Cattus:
--- Quote from: Jimor on 10 Dec 2014, 01:20 ---If Jeph ever tended to fall into standard sitcom tropes, I'd expect Emily to misunderstand Marten as asking HER out when he tells her about Clinton. But Jeph rarely falls into such obvious storytelling, so I'd expect him to add his own twist even if that's what he's planning.
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Fortunately, I don't think Jeph would ever do that. I do not remember any time that a redonculous 'rom-com' misunderstanding formed the basis for a QC theme thread. It's one of the things I enjoy about QC - Our 'friends' in the QC world act the way we generally would see them act in our world, perhaps even with less drama. That's why they are endearing.
MooskiNet:
--- Quote from: ankhtahr on 10 Dec 2014, 09:00 ---I wasn't so sure about it, but after rereading the archives a little I'd say that Emily and Clinton might actually fit together, if only as friends (hell, any regular social interaction might help Clinton). The way he is invested in AIs, his love for weird follow-ups, it might work. Also between 2068 and 2072 we can see that he is capable of kinda normal human interaction. Sure, he's stepping on some toes there, but it isn't too bad.
Edit: Also compare Emily's and Clinton reactions to seeing Momo.
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I pretty much agree with this. Claire gets as excited about library science as Clinton does about science and technology; I think Claire has had the opportunity to get her chill on as a result of hanging out with Marten and the gang.
It'll be neat to see if Clinton is allowed to develop beyond his initial definition, and double plus neat if Emily develops alongside - even, perhaps especially, if the relationship is platonic.
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