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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)

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jheartney:
Personally I think Dora-friend and Dora-boss are in complete alignment. I've had alcoholics in the family, and you're not doing them any favors by going easy. Faye has a very serious problem, and nothing short of this is going to get through the illness' defenses. Faye needs to see that she'll lose everything if she continues drinking. From Dora-boss' perspective, this is not tolerable in the workplace. From Dora-friend's perspective, enabling Faye helps neither Faye nor anyone else. Last of all, when dealing with an alcoholic, both friends and family have to protect themselves from the actions the alcoholic will take to keep drinking (and make no mistake, the alcoholic doesn't have to be as stubborn as Faye to make the lives of everyone in her circle miserable).

Dora might want to give a head's up to Marten, for his sake rather than Faye's, and because Faye may well try to enlist Marten as ally to prevent her (Faye) from having to face the consequences of her actions. The most helpful thing everyone can do is form a united front, to help Faye see she must seek help.

Faye will need a stint in detox, followed by AA and a sponsor to help her stay sober. More than that, however, she'll need to choose herself to want to get clean. Even with all that, the odds are not good that she'll stay on the wagon. For Faye, this is now a lifelong commitment. You never leave recovery.

ysth:
"Go home" is very different from "Get out".  I suspect Dora will make a call or two to others.

There's no such thing as a temporary firing, and from the perspective of either of them, no guarantee that the other would be willing to have rehiring happen.

mikmaxs:
Okay, I'm not siding with the alcoholic here, but man. Dora is being a terrible person here. Faye very, very clearly has abandonment issues, (Her dad killed himself in front of her, for starters,) and Dora has not only done very little to help, but ignored Faye's obviously terrible attempts to cope until it got to the point of firing. Obviously I can't say what's going to happen next, this could be a ploy, but Dora should know better.

If your friend says they want to be drunk all the time because they can't handle what they're going through, you go out of your way to help this friend. You do NOT ignore their problem and then get mad at them only when it begins to directly affect yourself. They need to be hard on Faye, definitely, and Faye needs to get help, but until now Dora (who is the only one who's had a chance to see the extent of Faye's depression) has done little to try and help, and seems genuinely surprised that Faye was drinking at work, the day after she said she never wanted to be sober and the afternoon after she came in reeking of booze with no hangover.

Tova:

--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 19 Jan 2015, 16:07 ---Oh, FUCK YOU, Dora. What a stupid fucking thing to do.

Not firing Faye, extreme, but justified. I mean firing Faye NOW. It'd be one thing if she told Faye to go home and they'd talk in the morning, but firing her when she's drunk and hurting?

--- End quote ---

I don't think she would have been any less drunk or any less hurting the next morning. It would not have made an ounce of difference.

Dora made the tough decision and she made it resolutely. If she had put it off, she may not have been able to to it. Yet it absolutely had to be done. Props to her, I say.

The change Faye has been desperately avoiding has now arrived. Maybe she can now start to deal with it.

Method of Madness:

--- Quote from: Tova on 19 Jan 2015, 18:43 ---I don't think she would have been any less drunk or any less hurting the next morning. It would not have made an ounce of difference.
--- End quote ---
She would've know she'd been caught, and acted accordingly. If that meant still drinking, then I'd stand by the firing. If that meant sobering up and getting a hold of herself, then Dora may have still fired her, but hopefully would talk to Faye about getting her help.

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