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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
MrNumbers:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 19 Jan 2015, 22:46 ---SJCrew, don't let it get personal.
MrNumbers, I thought about your question, and a possible answer is "starting a fire". She's done it before.
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But then Hannelore would get to see the sexy firemen again!
Oh, wait, they're all gross and sweaty in person.
*Sigh*.
Yeah, point ceded on that one. A fire would definitely be a thing. Even if it'd finally get all the basement spiders.
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 19 Jan 2015, 22:50 ---Come to think of it, a violent drunk around a broadsword and a Battle Spatula is a "recipe for unpleasantness", the kind of unpleasantness that can run to five figures in no time.
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... I want to see this strip now.
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 19 Jan 2015, 22:46 ---oh, you mean those things that WERE NEVER USED TO HURT CUSTOMERS?
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You do realize that the threat is still enough to claim an assault charge, with a deadly weapon at that, and there's more than enough customers in the store at any given time to make it an open-and-shut court case?
So... yeah. Unless Faye got drunk enough that she thought actually stabbing someone was a good idea (which I don't think was the case... yet...) I stand my ground on this one.
--- Quote from: SJCrew on 19 Jan 2015, 22:43 ---It's not. What you're saying is that the punishment was too harsh and irreversible. What I'm saying is the complete inverse: a) she can be planning to give her the job back all along, but had to send a strong enough message to get through to her, a message that "Go home" or "You're suspended" could not, and b) even if she wasn't expecting an immediate turnaround from Faye, she is doing what any good boss would do in her situation by setting an irrevokable standard for her business and her employers. If anybody else is having a shit time, they will know not to go 'full Faye', and take it out on the job.
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If nothing else, I'm just going to say that your former point directly contradicts your latter point and that your former point doesn't guarantee that Faye, upon termination, will come back by the time Dora decides it's okay, because someone could get pretty goddamn desperate with a job hunt and luck out just so you could 'make your point'. I really, sincerely doubt this was Dora's plan for a whole variety of reasons, least of which is Dora's just not that subtle.
Warning - while you were typing 4 new people logged in to yell at you. Prepare your Malaysian Battle Spatula for rebuttal.
--- Quote from: xaszatm on 19 Jan 2015, 22:54 ---THANK YOU! The CoD do flagrantly abuse and insult their patrons, but they rarely go beyond that. They have hundreds of dangerous items lying around BUT THEY NEVER USED THEM AGAINST OTHER CUSTOMERS. Faye actually injuring a customer would be completely different than threats or snark.
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1) Which is still already grounds for numerous court cases and
2) there's still no guarantee that being drunk would have made Faye carry out the threat, so the point's moot. I brought it up to point out Faye being drunk isn't more of a lawsuit magnet than anything they already do.
--- Quote from: Leveton on 19 Jan 2015, 22:55 ---Spill hot coffee on a customer. A customer who sues. In court, it comes out that Faye was drunk and Dora knew it before it happened. Compensatory damages covering medical care, as well as the famed "pain and suffering." Punitive damages for knowingly allowing a drunk employee to handle scalding-hot liquids around customers. Because of that same gross negligence, Coffee of Doom's liability insurance won't pay any claims from the suit. In such a lawsuit, compensatory and punitive damages could EASILY surpass the point at which Dora would lose Coffee of Doom (and any other assets Dora has that are not protected by U.S. bankruptcy law). Everyone at Coffee of Doom is out of a job.
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If the coffee is served at normal, legal temperatures, the above scenario doesn't happen. The court case you're referencing, the McDonald's coffee at the very least, were coffee spills from coffee served way, way above legal maximum temperature, which resulted in large skin grafts. The pain and suffering addition was for McDonalds initially refusing to take responsibility for their ludicrously illegal actions, and dragging it into the court in the first place.
The rest? Completely valid point. Except for the fact that Faye could have been sent home without being fired, which renders the rest, once more, moot.
I asked what she could have done drunk that would have been worse. This hinges on Dora not knowing, so her insurance can point out gross negligence. Either Dora's insurance would have covered, as she didn't know her employee was drunk, or Faye being sued directly, in the case of -- above -- it being taken as an assault case. Neither of which destroys her business.
Warning - while you were typing 3 new kids appeared on your lawn. Equip your old man cane and yell at them
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Another hypothetical disaster would be if Faye mishandled food and someone got sick. The disaster would come when the health department came in for an inspection. Between the spiders in the basement and the science project in the carafe (strip 729) CoD would get closed the same day.
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That's... still more Dora's fault than Faye's. Incredibly unlikely, seeing as she hands muffins to people with tongs, but if she did get drunk-lazy enough to think handling the baked goods with her bare hands was okay, you're right, that would be a complete clusterfuck. Point ceded.
MrNumbers:
I also need to say, in big bold letters:
I don't dislike Dora. I think she made a rash decision, but I think, morally, she's in the clear here. There is no Dora-hate going on here.
Alphawolf55:
You're missing a huge point. If Faye is lying about being drunk in the first place it makes Dora unable to accommodate her. Dora can't trust her and trust is a very important commidity in businesses like Doras especially since its clear that she hires people she knows usually.
qc001:
--- Quote from: plusorminus on 19 Jan 2015, 22:59 ---Suppose a customer with a severe nut allergy who makes that clear when ordering asks for a nonfat skim mocha and drunk!Faye makes it with Almond milk and adds a dash of hazelnut syrup to it? Someone dying would definitely be a buzzkill for the cafe and Dora would be lucky to escape with her ass intact, especially if it were to come out that Faye had been warned before and Dora let things stand.
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http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1123 - She already sort of did that, though Angus did not mention that he was lactose-intolerant prior to her making that particular drink (though unless he got his coffee black every day - which perhaps he did, since he would just throw it out - Angus likely would have asked for non-dairy creamers in his beverages, which he always ordered from Faye...)
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: MrNumbers ---... I want to see this strip now.
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Oh my, the possibilities. SWAT team standoff, Bianchi parents trying to calm her down with baked goods, Pintsize contributing to the crisis ...
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