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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
mikmaxs:
ReindeerFlotilla, to be clear, I meant before the firing. I don't really know how I could have been *more* clear on this point, but I meant she was a horrible friend for doing nothing to comfort her friend after her life was crushed, until it got to the point where Faye was drunk at work on purpose.
Plus, Dora didn't even look upset or sad, just angry. That's the kicker for me.
Madamlark: I'm not asking for a lot, just something (Anything!) to try and comfort, assist, or be a friend to Faye. Three days is enough time to make a phonecall or sit Faye down and have a conversation. She may be hurting, but she hasn't shown it. And at this point, I'm not going to count it if she realizes later and feels like crap about it: She's done that every time she makes a mistake.
'Lack of observation' is also not an excuse when your best friend who you work with 8 hours a day says explicitly that they want to drink themselves into oblivion.
madamlark:
You keep coming back to that specific part, but part of my disagreement with your take is that I don't read Faye saying that the same way. To me she comes across joking, and she jokes about alcohol all of the time! Does she have a bit of truth to it, yeah, but it doesn't come across as completely obvious, to me. And let's face it, Faye has smelled like a brewery before. The part where she doesn't have a hangover...well I don't drink enough to know if that's a big tell, lots of my friends can drink lots and not have hangovers so long as they get enough water and pain killers. When Dora has been very very clear about her feelings on drinking at work, I don't blame the angry face. I'm sure she is feeling conflicted, but I completely get how anger would win out in her expression. You're entitled to your way of seeing it, but I can't see this situation in the same light as you do.
explicit:
Here's something, it's not up to Dora to get help for Faye, it's up to Faye to ask for it.
mikmaxs:
I doubt Faye would blink at one joke or one missing hangover, but there's just SO MUCH evidence that you have to ignore to assume everything is okay.
Faye doesn't just make an offhand remark, she first asks permission to get wasted at work, insists that it's because she wants to tie one one, and then DORA first mentions that Faye wants to be drunk all the time. (Faye confirms this with more sarcasm.) Then Faye 'jokes' that she wants it so she won't have to feel anything.
The next day, after being obviously depressed, she comes in reeking of booze and yet happy and not hungover. She then says it's not luck or a happenstance, but that she took 'Medicine' for it.
That's a of jokes about alcohol in a 24 hour period, for a known alcoholic, who's clearly depressed and just suffered some major emotional trauma.
It's too much to look over for me. Again, they are best friends. They should know each other well enough to see when something is this plainly wrong.
Explicit: If someone is drowning at the bottom of a lake do they have to yell for help before someone will save them? If the lifeguard comes and is fought away that's one thing, but sometimes it's not si easy to ask for help.
Masterpiece:
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 20 Jan 2015, 01:23 ---She may be hurting, but she hasn't shown it.
--- End quote ---
And how is Dora supposed to know that? You can't help people if they obviously don't want to be helped (and don't show others they need the help!!).
That is, besides showing them that their actions have serious repercussions. And that's what Dora did.
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