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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)

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Emperor Norton:
Actually, I could see more the argument happening because Tai doesn't agree with her firing Faye because to her showing up with your brain messed up isn't a big deal.

Also, I do think its funny that people treat what Tai did as much less offensive, just because its "party" drugs. Faye was drunk, but still obviously coherent enough that Dora didn't notice until she actually saw her with the bottle. Tai was literally seeing the employees she was supposed to manage as firebreathing dragons.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not against what Dora did (though I think she should have sent her home then talked it through the next day, then fired her if that was what was necessary), I just think that its an interesting comparison. I'm not sure I would want to date someone who wasn't at least ethically on the same level as I would hold an employee. (Not saying only someone I would hire would be dateable, because they might not have the right skillset or temperament, but I wouldn't want to date someone who would break the ethics style rules of my company)

techkid:
In situations like this, it is hard to say what the correct course of action is. Faye is clearly in the wrong, but did Dora really handle it the right way? Or, to put it another way: How would I react and respond if I were in Dora's position?

My answer? I don't know. My own life has been a series of slippery slopes with only a couple of reliable tracks found thus far (I haven't hit bottom before, but sometimes one's own psychology can make it feel like you're there). I have never been in Dora's shoes, where I've had to make such a decision.

However, was an on the spot firing really justified? I don't think so. Immediate unpaid leave, with strict conditions that Faye gets help to clean herself up in two weeks or then she's out on her ass? That is a fair call, and is strict without being harsh. You've laid down your terms and conditions, and they have to act, knowing there will be repercussions if they don't.

The current decision, given that it is probably mid-morning, could lead anywhere (and BenRG has laid out a few scenarios that get very dark very fast). Will Faye seek comfort in the bottom of a bottle (which, given she lost her boyfriend, her job and possibly also her best friend in the space of a week, is highly likely)? Will Faye decide that Northampton doesn't have a place for her in it anymore, and follow Angus to NYC (Maybe. Angus didn't really want to split, but Faye made the call and he bitterly accepted that decision)? Or will Faye decide that the world has no place for her in it anymore, and attempt or commit suicide? QC is a pretty good reflection of real life, but it would be absolutely fucking heartbreaking to anyone, who has invested so much of their own life, whether it be the characters in the QCverse, or even us as readers and members of this online community, to accept or even really grasp such an act of desperation. Especially so for the people who unfortunately have been there, and more so for those who have to deal with the repercussions of those decisions.

Emperor Norton:
Also, I think the comic has been pretty clear. Dora ISN'T Faye's best friend. Marten is.

NilsO:
Come to think of it, we have seen Dora Boss quite a lot recently, but Dora Friend not so much. Does that mean that Dora has distanced herself from their friendship lately? When was the last time Dora appeared in a social setting with Faye? After Dora moved to Amherst, and started her relationship with Tai, I guess she in practice (if not by design) has removed herself from Faye's "inner circle" (currently, Marten, Hannelore, and Pintsize).

Dora Boss is a tough nut. Although she tolerates quite a lot from her employees, there is a limit; in particular if it has negative impact on her business. Therefore, I shall not judge Dora too harshly yet (but if Dora Friend does not appear after work, I shall be pissed at her). Dora Friend cannot let Faye destroy herself without at least trying to help.

I guess the best option for Dora Friend is to alert Marten and Hanners about the situation. They are probably the only ones that can really help Faye through this. There will definitely be snags (Sven comes to my mind), but long term recovery is still possible.

S/S Claireten might suffer through this. Marten can try to explain the situation to Claire, but it might feed Claire's insecurities and lead to a breakup. Still, I guess Marten will do everything he can to try to help Faye.

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Busy day, indeed...

phyllis:
Hello everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster. The reason that this week has dragged me out of lurkerdom is to make this point--people have brought up that Faye told Dora she wanted to be drunk whenever she was awake. That strip reminded me of a thing in one of my friendships, where one of my friends has a history of trying to kill herself, but also often makes jokes about wanting to kill herself, both when she is and isn't suicidal. Although I *hate* that she does that, because it makes it almost impossible for me to know whether she's serious or joking, she does it as a distancing technique. I think Faye was doing the same thing, and Dora had the same problem that I've just mentioned--having no idea whether Faye was being serious, because she is so used to Faye joking about being wasted that she can't actually assess what frame of mind she's in.

I also wanted to point out that Dora has been concerned about Faye's drinking for a REALLY long time, even in-strip:
 http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=981

She has previously released her from work to go to therapy, specifically to allow her to discuss her drinking:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=989

She encouraged her to attend the gym when that was the therapist's recommended alternative outlet:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=991

She even went with her (although more due to competitiveness than supportiveness):
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=999

I definitely feel for Faye, but this is not the first time that her drinking has caused her problems in her personal life, and her friends have tried to help her more gently before--including Dora, who actually called Marten out for not addressing it properly.

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