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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
Magniras:
--- Quote from: AnnathEawesoMe on 21 Jan 2015, 19:26 ---This is huge. Rather than leaving with the impression of just being fired for drinking, Faye can now portray Dora as having flipped out on her and being out of touch with reality. I totally agree with Natswash that Faye can and probably will tell her friends she quit instead of being fired. More importantly, Faye can now use this angle to poison Marten/everyone else against Dora and avoid admitting the real reason for her dismissal.
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Except Marten's reaction will most likely be to talk to Dora. The other employees at the coffee shop are going to hear Dora's side first, and most likely agree with her. I predict Hanners is going to be a nervous wreck after this though.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 21 Jan 2015, 19:06 ---I thought Dora encouraged insubordination.
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I've found that smaller companies and businesses tend to develop a sort of friendly insubordination just by the nature of their size. It's natural, because everyone knows each other or at least they know a fair bit of each other.
My last big job was with a small committee-run company helping to develop tourism in a local area, so we always had some big event or display on, especially when 2013 was the "Year of the Gathering". There was myself and three other full time staff, including the boss and during the year we had about 20 students working with us from various programs. For the most part I was in charge of training the students as well as dealing with vendors for fairs. Now, for most of the year, I could jokingly tell my boss to "feck off, I'm busy" while she called me a "sarcastic bastard". All in good fun, but there was also knowing where the boundries were - I would never dare dream of talking to anyone like that in front of board member (where we got most of our funding), nor would I talk like that during a meeting. Likewise the first day we had students in, I would be polite and mild-mannered. The reason my boss and I got into that frame of mind was because she knew that any task I was handed would be completed quickly and efficiently and that I wouldn't slack off.
You need that kind of friendly insubordination with a small group of people because it's all on them whether the business succeeds or not. And more likely than not, any small group of people working together will become friends and friends backtalk to each other, it's all about giving as good as you get with some people. But you also need to know when to stop messing around and act like a professional. There has to be a limit, a line drawn in the sand of what is acceptable and what is not and Faye crossed it by drinking on the job, or at least attempting to.
Natswash:
--- Quote from: Magniras on 21 Jan 2015, 19:43 ---
--- Quote from: AnnathEawesoMe on 21 Jan 2015, 19:26 ---This is huge. Rather than leaving with the impression of just being fired for drinking, Faye can now portray Dora as having flipped out on her and being out of touch with reality. I totally agree with Natswash that Faye can and probably will tell her friends she quit instead of being fired. More importantly, Faye can now use this angle to poison Marten/everyone else against Dora and avoid admitting the real reason for her dismissal.
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Except Marten's reaction will most likely be to talk to Dora. The other employees at the coffee shop are going to hear Dora's side first, and most likely agree with her. I predict Hanners is going to be a nervous wreck after this though.
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I dunno, I could see him finding out from Faye first, then talking to Tai about it. I definitely see Tai getting involved and talking with Claire/Marten about it. Probably talk to Emily too.
Who was it that said this could be Claire's chance to leave the nest while Faye couch surfs? Because as much as I would privately be heartwarmed, it's not likely they've been dating for what? Two/three days? A week tops?
Penquin47:
Faye... what are you doing? This can't end well.
--- Quote ---You should feel bad about things you must do, when they suck. Seriously. Who says, "I had to put the dog down, but it was time so I refuse to feel bad about it"? Really creep people, IMO. Healthy is, "This hurts, and I feel guilty, but I know it's the right thing to do."
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My old beagle, I don't feel bad about putting down at all. When we pulled the injection, the dog had been diabetic and blind for over a year. Three days before, he had a stroke that left him in a state where we had to guide him to his supper bowl because he could not find it on his own. Sure, it sucks that I lost a dog I loved, but I honestly believe that the stroke killed the dog and all we had put down was the empty shell. Call me creepy all you want, but I have never felt guilt about making the call to put him down.
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 21 Jan 2015, 19:43 ---
--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 21 Jan 2015, 19:06 ---I thought Dora encouraged insubordination.
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I've found that smaller companies and businesses tend to develop a sort of friendly insubordination just by the nature of their size. It's natural, because everyone knows each other or at least they know a fair bit of each other.
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I can say that at my school, the teachers have this kind of relationship with each other and with our principal. We know where the line is, we know when to pull the line back (such as in front of students and parents), and hoo boy if a teacher showed up drunk there would be hell to pay.
Zalder:
I really hope Faye's downward spiral doesn't cause Marten/Claire or Tai/Dora friction. I can see that happening, but I really don't want to be more pissed at her than I already am.
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