Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
TheEvilDog:
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--- Quote from: AnnathEawesoMe on 22 Jan 2015, 08:12 ---Dora sending a mass text to everyone "HEY I JUST FIRED FAYE CAUSE SHE'S DRUNK HAHA" would be real douchey, not to mention unprofessional.
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For sure, but not informing her/Faye's friends about what had happened (in more respectful tones, of course) would be downright irresponsible.
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Dora would definitely try to contact Marten before anyone else, mainly because you know, he lives with Faye and is her best friend. Which might cause a little friction with Tai who might wonder why her girlfriend is calling her ex before her.
Kiloku:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 22 Jan 2015, 08:28 ---
--- Quote from: anahata on 22 Jan 2015, 08:26 ---
--- Quote from: AnnathEawesoMe on 22 Jan 2015, 08:12 ---Dora sending a mass text to everyone "HEY I JUST FIRED FAYE CAUSE SHE'S DRUNK HAHA" would be real douchey, not to mention unprofessional.
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For sure, but not informing her/Faye's friends about what had happened (in more respectful tones, of course) would be downright irresponsible.
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An attempt may be made and I think Hanners will be available but Marten...?
"Hi, this is Marten; leave a message 'cause I can't take calls right now..."
"Yeah, he's busy making out with me! *giggles*"
"Claire! Damn it! No more sugar for you! Anyway, yeah, leave a message and a number, kay?"
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They're not this kind of couple. And Marten is rather good at prioritizing his friends.
eschaton:
Faye basically decided to not follow Angus to NYC because of CoD and Marten (her other friendships, like Hanners, are secondary). Now CoD is gone, and Marten is all she has left. Thus she has every reason to try and find Angus, patch things up with him, move to NYC. This would also allow her to continue running from her problems, at least for awhile.
That said, I don't think Angus is going to go for it. For one thing, it's going to be a drunken confrontation, and given his lack of tact, he's going to say something which pisses off Faye. For another thing, he's probably already begun moving on mentally - the spell is broken for him. Mostly though, it isn't going to happen because it's really bad storytelling for Faye to leave a wake of devastation and then be "put on the bus." She has further to fall still. So if she crawls to Angus, he must rebuke her.
The problem is, I don't see how she hits bottom here - quickly anyway - because Marten is Marten. As others noted, I just don't see how she will get Marten so mad he won't put up with her shit in the shorter run. Marten is someone with great patience, and very submissive - he's a textbook enabler. And he already has a dynamic where he's willing to do whatever is needed to support Faye. Faye drunkenly trying to seduce Marten out of loneliness would be ugly and awkward, but it wouldn't sunder their friendship any more than Martin doing inverse hurt things. Faye would need to be an unemployed drunken bum for months before Marten would start setting limits - and even then I wonder if he'd hit up his mom for some money rather than kick Faye out.
Also, no one else is moving in with Marten unless she's put on a bus. Yes, she could go to the Station for awhile. Or go back home for awhile and discover the truth about her dad. Or go into rehab. But all of these would take between a few weeks and a few months, not a year of time, and wouldn't require Marten to have someone new move in. And all of them would signal Faye was on recovery, so it would be shitty for Marten to take in someone new knowing she'd be able to be gainfully employed again soon enough. And I just don't see her moving in with Sven, even though she might try to get involved with him again, given she didn't ever seriously consider moving in with Angus. Plus as far as I know, Sven has never lived with a girl - even if he's in love with her, he'll probably want his distance for a time.
The title of the comic (The Great Schism) makes me think that the division will last for hundreds of strips, and involve more than just Dora and Faye - sundering the whole cast to a degree for a time. It also seems to imply that neither one of them will be exiting the comic - at least to me. Though I agree that if Faye stays in the comic, Dora will be dialed way, way back once the immediate drama passes. She'll still be seen as Tai's girlfriend (however long that lasts) and we'll periodically see CoD because Hanners and Dale work there, but that will be about it.
Finally, I think it should be noted there's an outcome that people haven't considered - that Faye "recovers" for a time, dialing back the drinking without addressing the underlying issues. I could see her rationalizing the reason she went to work drunk was not because she was an alcoholic, but because she actually started to hate working at CoD, and was looking for an excuse to leave.
Svennerson:
--- Quote from: Gareth on 22 Jan 2015, 05:43 ---Really? Man, not sure how I feel about that.
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Sorry man, was just trying to be funny, no offense meant.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: eschaton on 22 Jan 2015, 08:56 ---Also, no one else is moving in with Marten unless she's put on a bus.
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Have to disagree with this one. Remember, there was a trio in the apartment for short while with Dora living with Marten. Faye didn't seem to mind so it could easily happen again.
Other Points
I don't think that CoD will be de-emphasised any more than it is already (and it's already dropped down to joint importance as a setting with the Library). Remember that Marten goes there for a reason other than Faye anyway, so he has no particular reason to stop doing so.
I also don't think that there will be a taking of sides and a splitting of the cast. Whilst there may be a variation of responses as to reactions to these events, most characters have their own independent relationships other than those defined by the Dora-Faye axis. To me "The Great Schism" is entirely about Dora and Faye going their separate ways. Remember that this was a constant in the characters of Faye and Dora that even pre-dates their meeting Marten. It's going to be a big shock to the system for both of them not to have that in their lives anymore.
I'm hoping that Faye won't attempt to make it a 'It's CoD or me' choice because she'll alienate all her friends in pretty short order. Even Marten is now confident enough in himself to tell her that is a stupid and childish thing to do.
As for Dora specifically, she's been pushed back to secondary character status ever since her relationship with Tai became more settled. The primary characters at the moment seem to be Marten, Claire, Emily, Dale, Marigold and Faye with all the others being defined by their relationship to those six.
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