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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
ASB84:
As tough as the story is to see unfold - even for someone like myself who doesn't have any experience with addicts or alcoholics - I'm glad to see it continue, and not have cutaways to overly cutesy dates or gag strips or the like. That would just be some serious Mood Whiplash, and pretty choppy storytelling. Unpleasant, difficult, and confronting as this arc may be, it's one of the most important and serious ones in a while. It needs to play out.
I'm sure if Faye does end up having to go to hospital, it's not going to do much to restore Dora's image with readers who are already upset with her. For my part, I still think her hand was forced, and she was justified in the firing. I also think some people might be misinterpreting the "insubordination" speech; to me, it sounded like she was saying "Look, I put up with your quirks, I even eat up your (metaphorical) shit and call it ice cream, but you broke the one rule I asked everyone not to break under any circumstances."
At the end of the day, Faye is an adult, and whether this is truly a sign of a deep problem or a case of the blues that got way out of hand, she needs to take responsibility for her actions. One can sympathise with her, but that doesn't hand her a Get Out Of Jail Free card for anything and everything she does that's hurtful or objectionable.
I sympathise with Faye, but I also sympathise with Dora, who had to make a tough decision, and wasn't out of line given the circumstances (prior warnings, an understandable zero-tolerance rule, plenty of rope, assistant manager...it's all been covered in previous posts). I sympathise with Faye, because she's going through an awful time, quite likely has a serious problem, and is hitting rock bottom. I sympathise with Dora, because Faye can be extremely difficult, crossed the line here, and forced her hand.
It's natural to pick sides (especially when both characters are polarising among the fanbase), and nominate a good guy and bad guy in fiction. But honestly, I don't think there's a villain here.
Well, except Steve, of course. A friend he's known since the beginning of the strip is spiralling out of control, and all he can do is sit at home and eat cereal. What. A. Jerk.
SRRRRRRRR:
--- Quote from: Truec on 22 Jan 2015, 23:23 ---I don't pretend to be any kind of medical professional (okay, once or twice), but wouldn't vomiting mean Faye's in significantly less danger, because a sizable puddle's worth of alcohol is now in a sizable puddle, and not in her? I thought that was the whole reason people vomit from drinking too much.
--- End quote ---
Vomit includes some of the poison and your stomach contents. The problem is that if the alcohol makes you puke, it's already gotten past your stomach and into your blood. You will throw up some of the alcohol, but your body has already gotten enough in it that it could be at or past a dangerous amount.
ReindeerFlotilla:
I bet if Jeph had any idea the reaction was going to escalate this quickly, he'd have written this differently. Like, smaller bottles, to start.
I don't think real world physics is in play here. I mostly pointed out the LD50 because people need to be aware. In real life, that much drinking can kill you.
As for what Marten has to spend time doing: Leaving out the alcohol poisoning stuff, he has to get Faye out of her own vomit. Bile and skin should not be mixed.
He needs to clean up what he can.
I don't know about you, but after policing vomit, I wouldn't want to jump right into cuddles and a movie.
Ew.
BenRG:
Damn it. I'm starting to hate being right with this arc! :-(
So, it's to hospital for a while for Faye. The vomit is dark enough that there is blood in it. That means a ruptured stomach ulcer or something similar, which is not surprising for someone with a long-term drinking habit plus a history of stress-induced mental illness. That will mean even longer in the hospital and a doctor saying: "You will be teetotal or you will die." Faye is for a long, hard rehabilitation and I can't see her being the same woman ever again. Sharing a bottle with the Grim Reaper does that for you.
I think that next week will mostly be set at hospital with the cast waiting for Faye to get out of surgery and asking themselves if they could have done anything to have prevented this. The answer is probably 'no' but that won't stop them feeling guilty; especially Dora, who may end up just in as much danger as Faye.
As for Pintsize? I doubt that Faye shut him down in line with manufacturers' guidelines, so he might have lost his short-term memory cache and may need repairs. At the very least, he'll need attention from Marigold.
One final thought: in my view, this was a 'cry for help' suicide attempt.
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 22 Jan 2015, 23:45 ---I don't know about you, but after policing vomit, I wouldn't want to jump right into cuddles and a movie.
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He may still need and get the cuddles. They'll just be on a hard bench in a hospital waiting room.
Reaver:
Long time Lurker, first time poster!
I don't like Faye, I've never really liked her to be honest? That type of person I'd find extremely unpleasant to be around, I fully acknowledge that she's been through hell, but she always puts the other people around her through hell too which is really unfair , she seems to expect constant support no matter how badly she behaves...I think it's time she finally dealt with some consequences of her actions (Losing her job is a consequence of her own actions)
I don't blame Dora for firing her, nor do I blame her for not fussing and calling Martin so he can babysit Faye. (I also don't like this sentiment of HOW DARE SHE FIRE FAYE, Faye deserved to be fired, not only did she show up /drunk/ she /LIED/ about showing up drunk and then slipped in the back to drink more, she lied and broke one of the only few rules given to her by Dora, she deserved to be canned dang it)
Honestly I'm more worried about Pintsize than I am for Faye, Pintsize has been in the background for a /long/ time, in fact he's even said his job with Marten is over because Marten has real friends now, this very well may be Jeph escorting him out of the comic on a sadder note.
(So sorry about the long post :-( )
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