Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
Lubricus:
--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 23 Jan 2015, 02:21 ---New bet:
What are the odds Sven finds out about this, ends up on Angus's talk show as a music guest some day, and punches him in front of the cameras for reasons neither of them fully understands?
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Quite high odds, I'd say - Sven's not likely to punch anyone.
hakko504:
Speaking of Hanners, is the next strip going to start with Marten showing up at Hannelore's door with a Tom Collins in his hand?
I've read the thread and I'm seriously worried about Faye. This is not good. I'm also very curious to see how Claire reacts to Marten cancelling their date. If he doesn't ask her to come over and help him, she may get all sorts of wrong ideas fueled by Pintsize's tl;dr.
Mr. Skawronska:
--- Quote from: Lubricus on 22 Jan 2015, 22:21 ---I'm sad that Marten's date was cancelled. Damn you, Faye!
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Yet another misery she has visited upon poor Marten. She really is a happiness vampire.
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 22 Jan 2015, 22:29 ---For future reference, don't try to drive someone to the hospital in a situation like that. If she stops breathing, better to have it happen inside an ambulance with oxygen and expert people right there than in your car in traffic.
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Unless of course you ARE the expert and realize that the response time of your colleagues delays care unacceptably.
I wouldn't know anything about that.
Nope, nope, nope.
--- Quote from: SRRRRRRRR on 22 Jan 2015, 23:00 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 22 Jan 2015, 22:54 ---
--- Quote from: SRRRRRRRR on 22 Jan 2015, 22:46 ---Are you a medical professional or some sort of specialist in the sciences of life?
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Nothing of the kind, which is why I had to ask the question. Just speculating based on my own sleep apnea problem. Please do not add that to your fact bank unless I turn out to have guessed right!
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I think you have. More research is required.
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It's actually slightly worse, as severe alcohol intoxication can inhibit the gag reflex, which is why choking on vomit or positional asphyxiation is more probable.
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/AlcoholOverdoseFactsheet/Overdosefact.htm
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 22 Jan 2015, 23:45 ---I bet if Jeph had any idea the reaction was going to escalate this quickly, he'd have written this differently. Like, smaller bottles, to start.
I don't think real world physics is in play here. I mostly pointed out the LD50 because people need to be aware. In real life, that much drinking can kill you.
As for what Marten has to spend time doing: Leaving out the alcohol poisoning stuff, he has to get Faye out of her own vomit. Bile and skin should not be mixed.
He needs to clean up what he can.
I don't know about you, but after policing vomit, I wouldn't want to jump right into cuddles and a movie.
Ew.
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Nah. Spend a couple years in EMS and you'll find your ability to eat Hawaiian Style pizza right after a patient has painted the entire interior of your rig in vomit yellow increases dramatically.
Excellent assessment, by the way. But Marten, sadly, is not a professional, so it is unlikely he will know any of this.
--- Quote from: Reaver on 23 Jan 2015, 00:03 ---Long time Lurker, first time poster!
I don't like Faye, I've never really liked her to be honest? That type of person I'd find extremely unpleasant to be around, I fully acknowledge that she's been through hell, but she always puts the other people around her through hell too which is really unfair , she seems to expect constant support no matter how badly she behaves...I think it's time she finally dealt with some consequences of her actions (Losing her job is a consequence of her own actions)
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Damn skippy.
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Jan 2015, 00:26 ---I'm not trying to challenge anyone's right to detest fictional characters, but I gotta ask: If you hate [insert appropriate girl's name here] so much, why do you read the comic?
I am honestly unable to guess why, and I really would like to know.
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Because:
1) I love the comic, including the characters I love to hate.
2) Seeing the characters I love to hate getting their comeuppance makes me smile.
3) I enjoy good storytelling that can actually evoke an emotional reaction from me, good OR bad.
4) In every story, there's a character you cheer for, and a character you boo and hiss at. Faye, in this case, is my boo-hiss character. Both types of character give me happiness to read, but for different reasons.
That's why.
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 23 Jan 2015, 00:53 ---Also a fifth of whiskey really isn't that much, considering how much and how often Faye drinks, her tolerance is likely quite high.
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I was thinking that, too.
Highest BAC I have personally witnessed was something ridiculous like .454, and not only did the person live, she was unharmed and did not spend a minute in ICU.
The human body is a weird and wonderful thing.
--- Quote from: BenRG on 23 Jan 2015, 01:26 ---Let's put it this way: there really looks like there was a lot of blood in Faye's vomit. That means a ruptured stomach ulcer and it means that she's bleeding out internally right now. She's going to hospital and she's going under the knife to sew her stomach lining back together. Although that's a routine operation, it does have a surprisingly high failure rate so it's going to be everyone hugging in the waiting room and hoping for the best.
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That's an excellent point. Think Jeph made the vomit that color with this condition in mind?
More popcorn, more vitriol, more catharsis.
This...THIS RIGHT HERE, and THIS DISCUSSION...is why I love this comic.
Warning - while you were slapping this mess together someone else actually posted something worth reading. You may wish to delete it until you can post something smaller than a novella.
aphanisis81:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Jan 2015, 00:26 ---I'm not trying to challenge anyone's right to detest fictional characters, but I gotta ask: If you hate [insert appropriate girl's name here] so much, why do you read the comic?
I am honestly unable to guess why, and I really would like to know.
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I think it's less about truly hating them as though they're individuals and more about deciding which character(s), for you as a reader, fill the role of antagonist. Every story needs conflict and most conflict is caused by people, right? Hating Faye (or Dora, or whomever) seems to me no different from saying "I hate Iago, look what he's doing to poor Othello!" That doesn't mean you don't think he's a well-constructed character in a compelling story.
It's a strong, thoughtful author who can inspire this kind of diversity of reaction in his readers, to the point that people are taking sides about who the antagonist even really is. Instead of one mustache-twirler, we get deeply human, sometimes ambiguous or contradictory, behaviors that we interpret differently. And we can all point to different strips to support different readings.
To me, asking "Why read the comic if you hate the characters?" misses the subtleties of what "hate" entails when used in this context. We do it for the same reason we watched seasons 1 & 2 of The Office even as Michael Scott's social ineptitude made us almost physically uncomfortable. Anything that can inspire a visceral reaction, even if it's a negative one, makes for enjoyable narrative art.
hedgie:
There is also the matter of characters that one loves to hate, especially with the Schadenfreude that results when they get knocked down a peg or two. At this moment, I don't feel that way about Faye. She's hurting hard, and I've been in a similar situation, and fear falling back into it if I can't get my psychiatric situation sorted. It's made even worse by the fact that I was forcibly detoxed from Lithium because the clinic hasn't got back to the pharmacy about the matter of getting it paid for (didn't have the cash on hand to pay for it).
This shit is hitting pretty close to home. I'm not going to make Dora into a villain either. She did what she had to do.
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