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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)

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themacnut:
I'm not surprised Marten hasn't called 911, assuming he isn't about to do so next comic. After all, Faye's a long-time hard drinker and this is not the first time she's drunk herself unconscious, or even thrown up on the couch. He simply may not think she's in any danger and indeed she may not be, after all her tolerance would be a lot higher that the rest of her present social circle. We may just cut to her waking up in bed with the mother of all hangovers, with no recollection of how she got there, or of being fired either.

The fact of Faye's hard-drinking habit may be part of the reason he's not very surprised at what he walks in on, though a heads-up from Dora or Tai makes more sense.

eschaton:
Somewhat relevant, an interesting article I ran into on addition today. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-real-cause-of-addicti_b_6506936.html

stephber:
Using ReindeerFlotilla's assumptions, here's where we would be for the BAC:


from  http://www.globalrph.com/bac.cgi

We don't know how long she's been away from COD - I'm assuming 6 hrs from the AM firing to when Marteen arrives. I'm also assuming a slightly higher then normal alcohol clearance due to how much Faye drinks. Quite a few studies from Toxicology journals show "There is wide variation in the metabolism of ethanol. The unhabituated drinker clears ethanol from the blood stream at an approximate rate of 15 to 20 mg/dL (3 to 4.5 mmol/L) per hour. Patients with chronic ethanol abuse can clear ethanol at a rate of 25 to 35 mg/dL (5.5 to 8 mmol/L) per hour, or even faster in some cases."

Now, we're all making assumptions that the vomit there is "coffee-ground emesis" - pretty much the standard for showing a GI bleed. We don't know if that's the case or if Jeph just likes his vomit drawn dark brown with the ever-present corn and carrots.

Should Marten call 911 and get her to the hospital? With her looking like that and having a likely BAC over 0.3, heck yeah. Do I think that Faye's likely to die from this? Not very as we have a few 'regulars' showing up to our ER by EMS with BAC like this getting discharged 4-5 hours later after some IV fluid and thiamine.

bhtooefr:
Pintsize is fine, we've seen him shut off before, and Marten keeps backups.

Emperor Norton:

--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Jan 2015, 10:23 ---
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 23 Jan 2015, 07:22 ---If one fifth of 80 proof liquor REALLY had a 50/50 kill chance, I, as well as a large number of my friends, have all had lottery winning levels of luck in not dying in our 20s. I think that there is something you might be missing in how those calculations are done.

(also, I'm sure Faye weighs more than 60kg, though I didn't in my hardest drinking partying days)

--- End quote ---

It's not a fifth, you're right. It's 535 millimeters. About 13 shots for a 75 kg person.

It's actually somewhat surprising that human beings survive anything, but in this case it generally takes some work to reach that level, and it does all have to be consumed faster than the liver can process it.

Around 13 shots per hour will give 50/50 odds of death for a 160-ish pound person. I'd guess Faye to be in the 140 to 160 range, so the fact that she's had more than a liter and a half, possibly more than 2 liters, is worthy of consideration.

Math is not that hard.

--- End quote ---

I've known plenty of people who have regularly downed 1-2 fifths in a single night. They got sick, woke up fine (though very hung over). This happened a LOT when I was in my early 20s. To myself and others I have known.

The problem with the math is that that is in ONE HOUR. I sincerely doubt she downed two bottles in an hour, and depending on how much it has taken in the past for her to get drunk, Marten might actually not find it as that much overkill. The biggest two warning signs that this is "big problem" rather than just Faye getting drunk the way she has most of the comic is that A. She was completely alone, and B. its the middle of the day.

She was fired at what looked like opening. He was just getting off work before preparing to go out on a date. I'd guess it was around 4-5 o'clock. My bet is that she had a good 6-7 hours of drinking in there before she passed out. Also, that one bottle looks like the one she had at CoD, which she started drinking when she first woke up.

Literally, if 13 shots killed people 50/50, there would be more than around 2,200 alcohol poisoning deaths a year in the US. You'd probably have that just on University campuses. I know from experience.

Also, the actions to take before calling 911: Check and see if they are breathing irregular, check to see if their pulse is low, check if breaths per minute is low, check if they have a pain response. If none of those things come up negative, you really just need to keep a REALLY close eye on them. If any of those come up as a warning sign, THEN call 911.

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