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WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
cesium133:
It seems that Marten's and Faye's happinesses are inversely related. For Marten to be happy, Faye must be sad, and vice versa. We should get Hannelore to instruct us on how to solve the Fourier-Goldman Equation for this situation.
explicit:
I crunched the numbers and I keep coming back to puppies and/or kittens.
demency:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Feb 2015, 16:18 ---Identity is personal. It's next to meaningless to the rest of the world. This really issue isn't a matter of how you define "woman." I'd say writing it off so simply is unfair to do define their sexuality by genital structure. It suggests that there is something wrong with their sexuality. A person with (literally) no interest is dick isn't going to suddenly gain an interest because a dick's owner identifies as a woman. The same goes for pussy and identification as a man. There are limits.
The issue is, ultimately, that everyone tends to think that their definition of "straight" (Lesbian, gay, bi, queer, trans) is THE definition. Everyone is wrong. There is no one definition. Just seven billion identities in conflict with a handful of false culutral norms.
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That's... literally totally not relevant to what I was saying. No where was I attempting to state that anyone *has* to want to sleep with the owner of any particular set of genitals - in fact, you're coming at it from 180 degrees in the opposite direction. I have no interest in getting involved in the politics of *that* discussion, except to say that I consider it perfectly reasonable for someone to say, about their own preferences only, "I have no interest in X type of genitals". There's nothing oppressive about that.
What I said is that if a straight man is attracted to a straight trans woman, that straight man does not become bisexual or queer, simply if the straight trans woman has a penis. That is the only point I was making. Regardless of what genitals Claire has, if Marten is straight now, he will be just as straight in the morning, if they make love.
edit: I apologize if this comes across as overly confrontational or argumentative, that's not necessary. It's just a little frustrating, because when I try to make this point in other places, it almost always, as it did here, invariably goes straight to "you can't tell someone to be attracted to X genitals or Y genitals!" No, of course not, and I'm not *trying* to. And yet, that's almost always the first, immediate response.
bhtooefr:
I'm pretty sure that was a joke. And, that's why I said constantly crap on any character - it's far more brutal to ruin happiness by not actually giving Marten any lasting happiness, just fleeting chances at it, than just keeping him constantly down.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: demency on 08 Feb 2015, 15:49 ---I feel like I need to mention, as a trans woman - regardless of what genital configuration Claire may currently have, and regardless of whether or not she plans to some day have bottom surgery - which is, of course, none of our business - she is a *woman*. A man who sleeps with a trans woman in no way, shape, or form stops being straight, *regardless* of the genital configuration of that woman. Whatever she has downstairs, they're a *woman's* genitals, and last I checked, when a man and a woman have sex, that's usually considered pretty straight. Whatever Claire and Marten get up to, unless they invite a third person, it will be straight sex.
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(regular user)Well said.(/)
Administrator Comment That's the official position of forum management as well.(regular user)Was this all just a poor choice of words? Marten has in fact been pretty whitebread in his sexuality, judging from his porn collection and what Dora said. Of course he's in a het relationship now. It is also one that imposed on him a duty to be open-minded in a way that was not foreshadowed in the first couple of thousand strips.
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