Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2897 - 2901 (16-20 February 2015)
cesariojpn:
--- Quote from: Khazgar on 18 Feb 2015, 00:57 ---...so why can't we just respect Claire and Marten (and through them, all other real-life trans/cis couples) and allow them their privacy?
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So what your saying is, Jeph has every right to "discuss" a topic/explore an issue via an open forum like a webcomic, and his fans don't have the same "speaking right" to discuss or explore similar issues?
Thats.....not right.
explicit:
See, when people say the forums are well behaved it makes me want to act like a total dick. You did this to me.
Okay, let's see what we have to work with... um... okay, hey guys! Sometimes I think your opinions and my own don't match, but that's okay! ... Wait... that doesn't sound right... dammit...
Warning - After writing your stupid... whatever joke, someone else posted something that you want to respond to. Maybe you should have just do that instead adding the above.
Shut up red color words, you're not the boss of me.
Anyways:
--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 18 Feb 2015, 01:26 ---
--- Quote from: Khazgar on 18 Feb 2015, 00:57 ---...so why can't we just respect Claire and Marten (and through them, all other real-life trans/cis couples) and allow them their privacy?
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So what your saying is, Jeph has every right to "discuss" a topic/explore an issue via an open forum like a webcomic, and his fans don't have the same "speaking right" to discuss or explore similar issues?
Thats.....not right.
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You're confusing not talking about their intimacy with not talking about their relationship. We don't talk about their bits because it shouldn't matter and makes many people in this forum uncomfortable.
MrNumbers:
I really, desperately want to emphasize that Marten just said:
"I'm not being passively cool with things, I'm being actively happy with them."
This is about the most explicit, blunt, stated evidence of character growth that sums up this entire character arc.
As in Marten has grown as a character.
Revel!
BenRG:
--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 18 Feb 2015, 01:26 ---
--- Quote from: Khazgar on 18 Feb 2015, 00:57 ---...so why can't we just respect Claire and Marten (and through them, all other real-life trans/cis couples) and allow them their privacy?
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So what your saying is, Jeph has every right to "discuss" a topic/explore an issue via an open forum like a webcomic, and his fans don't have the same "speaking right" to discuss or explore similar issues?
Thats.....not right.
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As far as I can tell, the 'disussion and exploration' basically boils down to:
* A prurient and speculative interest in Claire's genitals;
* Angry disbelief that Marten can be 'okay' with it, whatever it is;
* An insistence that Marten is 'out of character' for having shown character growth in his approach to interpersonal interactions.[edit]
What is really annoying about #3 is that the people who are offended by Marten not being fixed and static in personality are typically the same people who complain about Claire being under-developed as a character! Yeah... You can tell that I'm getting fed up with the whole scratched record, can't you?
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--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 18 Feb 2015, 01:35 ---I really, desperately want to emphasize that Marten just said:
"I'm not being passively cool with things, I'm being actively happy with them."
This is about the most explicit, blunt, stated evidence of character growth that sums up this entire character arc.
As in Marten has grown as a character.
Revel!
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Exactly. Is that so hard to imagine?
Orkboy:
--- Quote from: Rghfrgl on 17 Feb 2015, 23:44 ---It kind of feels like 'We're not going to talk about it, but we're talking about it' again and it feels like that vagueness is making it hard to read.
I mean, I'm breaking the rules talking about it, but..they're talking about it in comic aren't they? So, I guess I'll spoil it for warning to anyone who doesn't want to read it. And if the post gets deleted I'll understand.
(click to show/hide)So, Claire just asked the hardball question of (removed by moderator)? And Marten...kinda said yes? Dodged the question while reaffirming that he was happy with her in general? If Jeph doesn't want to bring up Claire's status that's cool and all, but this seems like it should be a off panel conversation if that's the case. Trying to do both I'm not sure what Claire's asking and I'm not sure what Marten's answer is(Though I do like the active rather than passive line).
Or is it a problem on my end and I'm reading more into it then there is?
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I think you're reading too much into it. I think the conversation is more about how Claire was worried that Marten was in the "cool with trans, would feel weird dating a trans person" camp. Based on the threads in Discuss, it's a big problem for trans people.
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