Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2902-2906 (23-27 February 2015)
Meilu:
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--- Quote from: BenRG on 25 Feb 2015, 02:02 ---You know, poor Jeph can't win, can he? He draws a Claireten strip or two and the forum spends pages bitching about it being boring and repetitive. He draws a strip of two about Faye and it's ignored in favour of weird puns and a discussion of popular music.
It's not just here either. The number of posts per strip on the Subreddit has also dropped by about 75% since the focus moved from Claireten.
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I think it's just people being content with the comics? I mean, I for example enjoyed the comic - it's not the very best and most awesome Jeph has ever drawn, but it's good. It has Hanners dealing with Faye in a fun way, Character interaction, a pun! Wonderful. But I don't have much of an opinion either, except that I'm still weirded out by the extreme reactions - yeah, Faye overdid it. But pouring away alcohol like it was poison? Cleaning out the apartment? Asking somebody to stop you from buying booze? I feel the normal reaction would just be carrying on while drinking less/nothing, and asking somebody to stay with you to stop you from drinking is a good idea if you feel like you need it. Her problem is not the drink, it's her issues, and she should treat those with care and immediately (calling Dr. Corinne?). Those extreme reactions to alcohol just make the issue worse, in my opinion. If I can't stop myself from drinking if it's right in front of me and smelling delicious... all right, I get it. But if I believe my self-control is so weak that I can't stop myself from going out and buying some, there's something wrong.
But it's not a strong opinion, and I think a lot of it is just different experiences.
When there's a Clairten strip... it's frustrating. I've been ignoring it for a few strips, but the boring writing actually makes the strip a lot less enjoyable for a lot of people including me, so we tried to find out if there were like-minded people and what others thought about it. Same with people who like it a lot. I mean, the general consensus is: We like and mostly enjoy Questionable Content. We don't have to reiterate it in every post - if we didn't like it, we wouldn't be coming back. So you just see the strong mood swings - Comics that are perceived as exceptionally good, bad or those that touch us emotionally.
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Forgive any spelling or grammar mistakes, and lack of coherence... still no computer.
I have several alcoholics in my family. My sister was clean for years simply by virtue of it not being around and her inability to leave her house alone to purchase it (an entirely separate issue, but I digress). The moment that changed, without hesitation and self-control, she immediately descended into a drunken stupor. It was literally the forst thing she did. The fact that she was the sole caretaker of a 7 year old child didn't even matter. Addiction literally is a crippling disease for some people, and some of those people have to have some sort of support like that for theor own good. That I live over a thousand miles from my sister (though her refusal to talk to me due to my trans status likely wouldn't change if the distance were less significant) and cannot support her personally haunts me daily. I'm not at all saying that it's the same situation. Clearly it is not. However, Faye has obvious alcoholic tendencies. That she was strong enough to pour it down the sink is awesome. Deliberate avoidance and lack of opportunity to fall back into the habit are key strategies to surviving the addiction. My father did (though his situation was entirely different as well). It doesn't just take strength to be around something you are addicted to and NOT use it... it takes strength, will, and almost super-human dedication. Time away helps, but sometimes even that isn't enough.
But having supported many people through this (without something like AA) I know Faye is handling herself the right way and not overreacting at all. She should talk to her therapist, that much is true. Her friends stopping her for her own good? Definitely a good plan on her part. At least then she knows, when she eventually IS alone, she can do it because people love her enough to help her like that. Learning support is there is key.
ASB84:
--- Quote from: swapna on 25 Feb 2015, 15:15 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 25 Feb 2015, 02:02 ---You know, poor Jeph can't win, can he? He draws a Claireten strip or two and the forum spends pages bitching about it being boring and repetitive. He draws a strip of two about Faye and it's ignored in favour of weird puns and a discussion of popular music.
It's not just here either. The number of posts per strip on the Subreddit has also dropped by about 75% since the focus moved from Claireten.
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I think it's just people being content with the comics? I mean, I for example enjoyed the comic - it's not the very best and most awesome Jeph has ever drawn, but it's good. It has Hanners dealing with Faye in a fun way, Character interaction, a pun! Wonderful. But I don't have much of an opinion either, except that I'm still weirded out by the extreme reactions - yeah, Faye overdid it. But pouring away alcohol like it was poison? Cleaning out the apartment? Asking somebody to stop you from buying booze? I feel the normal reaction would just be carrying on while drinking less/nothing, and asking somebody to stay with you to stop you from drinking is a good idea if you feel like you need it. Her problem is not the drink, it's her issues, and she should treat those with care and immediately (calling Dr. Corinne?). Those extreme reactions to alcohol just make the issue worse, in my opinion. If I can't stop myself from drinking if it's right in front of me and smelling delicious... all right, I get it. But if I believe my self-control is so weak that I can't stop myself from going out and buying some, there's something wrong.
But it's not a strong opinion, and I think a lot of it is just different experiences.
When there's a Clairten strip... it's frustrating. I've been ignoring it for a few strips, but the boring writing actually makes the strip a lot less enjoyable for a lot of people including me, so we tried to find out if there were like-minded people and what others thought about it. Same with people who like it a lot. I mean, the general consensus is: We like and mostly enjoy Questionable Content. We don't have to reiterate it in every post - if we didn't like it, we wouldn't be coming back. So you just see the strong mood swings - Comics that are perceived as exceptionally good, bad or those that touch us emotionally.
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Dissatisfaction invites stronger reactions, and in a discussion forum, longer posts. I'd say that most of us feel compelled to explain ourselves when we have criticism, too. As you alluded to, there's not always a lot to say when you've enjoyed a strip, especially if it doesn't evoke a particularly strong response.
Perfectly Reasonable:
I love Encouraging Hannelore in panel one.
"Don't worry -- You'll get the hang of it."
Just what Faye needs to hear.
Gladstone:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 25 Feb 2015, 02:02 ---You know, poor Jeph can't win, can he? He draws a Claireten strip or two and the forum spends pages bitching about it being boring and repetitive. He draws a strip of two about Faye and it's ignored in favour of weird puns and a discussion of popular music.
It's not just here either. The number of posts per strip on the Subreddit has also dropped by about 75% since the focus moved from Claireten.
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Jeph said a few weeks ago on Twitter during Faye's ER visit that if all he cared about was web traffic, he would put his characters in the hospital every week.
Personally, I like how this week is going. We haven't seen Hannelore and Faye spend any time together for more than one strip for a while, so I'm glad Jeph decided to give them some page time, and I hope Thursday and Friday are the same (or we pop on over to CoD to see how Dor's doing). And if the forum doesn't hit 20 pages by Friday or Saturday, meh, no big loss. Something will probably happen next week to make up for it.
MONDAY, Marten and Faye's apartment. Faye is on the couch, furiously knitting, as Marten walks in.
FAYE: "Hey, assbutt."
MARTEN: "Are you knitting?"
FAYE: "Yeah, Trying to take my mind off things. Hannelore taught me. How'd your day go?"
MARTEN: "Ugh, annoying. Tai found out Claire slept over last night and threw us a party, Emily got drunk and started spilling government secrets, Momo got into a fight with Clinton. I can still smell singed hair. How'd Tai find out, anyway?"
FAYE: "Hey, I didn't say anything."
MARTEN: "I know, I know. I just can't figure out--unless--no, couldn't be--PINTSIZE!!!!"
PINTSIZE: "Yoink!"
[Studio audience laughs, applauds]
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
osaka:
The setting and the "Yoink!" put my mind automatically on the "Surprise buttsecks" song. Damn you Gladstone.
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