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WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
Aziraphale:
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--- Quote from: Akima on 04 Mar 2015, 00:42 ---
--- Quote from: Aziraphale on 03 Mar 2015, 21:37 ---But Dora's actions seem like those of someone who's been asked, or asked themselves, which is more important: control, or people.
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Presenting a dichotomy like that is odd. "People" seems to be being defined as people other than Dora. Doesn't "people" include Dora? Are not her interests just as important as those of Sven and Faye? Is Dora being offered the same sort of consideration that people seem to be asking of her?
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You're presenting a feature as a bug. The whole point of this argument is that Dora is creating the dichotomy, not others. She doesn't want to deal with her brother's entitlement issues. She doesn't want to take the initiative to rebuild the bridges with Faye. She seems to need to set the terms of her every interpersonal interaction. With her troubled (bordering on abused) background, this need isn't surprising. However, empathy for her troubles and understanding that Tai isn't exactly brilliant at getting through walls doesn't in any way change the fact that Dora has her own troubles to address.
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Ben gets at most of what I would've said, so I'm going to add one small thing: Of course it's an "odd" dichotomy. Most of us wouldn't view it as one or the other; we control what we can, let go of what we can't (with varying degrees of difficulty), and try to understand and deal with people whose motives, experiences, and issues may be nothing like our own. It's a balancing act, and nobody gets it 100% right 100% of the time.
And of course Dora matters; my point, though, is that her actions are ultimately hurting her every bit as much as the people around her, at least in part because she comes down on the wrong side of the line between self-interest and selfishness every bit as often as the people she's so angry at.
anahata:
--- Quote from: CaptainFish on 04 Mar 2015, 07:37 ---
--- Quote from: ASB84 on 04 Mar 2015, 06:50 ---While Dora may be disregarding Tai's feelings - and I agree that it's fair to say that she is - Tai is doing the same thing to her, only with better intentions. Dora's current approach to dealing with these issues isn't healthy, but
[1] she's also not in a place where she's ready to discuss them at length, or change her stance.
[2] she doesn't feel like talking about right now, at this very moment with Tai.
[3] she just wants to unwind after a day at work, and not think about all that right now.
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I think these would all be great responses to Tai's statement in panel 3, and I think Tai would've acquiesced.
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Yes, and I think I've just realised it's Dora's dismissive reply that was ringing alarm bells for me. Simply "Well don't (worry)" is not reassuring in this context, as Dora is obviously under some stress and does need to talk to someone about it, and if not Tai, then who?
Or she thinks everything is just fine, when it's obviously not.
Zebediah:
--- Quote from: dexeron on 04 Mar 2015, 05:48 ---
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 03 Mar 2015, 09:47 ---Pintsize has not yet met May. I suspect she could match him crude joke for crude joke.
This would inevitably end with the two of them on the sofa with a USB cable connecting the two of them, exchanging hot packets all night long.
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I so badly misread that, and just had this weird image of May and Pintsize chilling, eating really terrible deathfood.
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Well, they might do that too. Pintsize is into some pretty kinky stuff.
aphanisis81:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 04 Mar 2015, 04:38 ---
--- Quote from: Lubricus on 04 Mar 2015, 04:37 ---Tai doesn't call Marten "Marty", does she?
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Actually, I can't remember the last time that Tai actually named Marten... :-\
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I don't know if it's the most recent time, but shortly after the big Dora/Marten breakup, when the latter is trying to decide where to go for lunch, Tai calls him "poor emo Marten." Why that leapt into my brain the moment I read your post, I have no idea....
It's also one of few strips that outright name-checks Northampton. :D
Endellion:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 04 Mar 2015, 04:35 ---Well, this Tuesday is clearly ending on a harsh note! Some predictions for Wednesday (in universe):
* Tai is all mopey at work and eventually breaks down on the shoulder of a shocked, embarrassed and confused Claire or Marten (or both);
* Dora is snappy at work and Hannelore (still upset at Faye being fired) tells her off, visibly terrifying all the staff and customers (one of whom says: "Faye's back! They put her brain in Hannelore's body!")
* Dora decides to put her best foot forwards and goes to see Faye; Faye is going out to the support group but Marten is in and the two fall into conversation. Basically Marten does what Faye would have done: He calls her an idiot for risking her relationship with Tai - the best thing that she's had in her life for ages.
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I can see Tai stopping off at Marten's to get some relationship advice/compare notes on Dora's behaviour.
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