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WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
Tova:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 11 Mar 2015, 00:40 ---Just because it might better if we did it a thing, does it follow that we should do that thing? While I think there's decent scientific evidence to support the idea that being more open and less defensive leads to better outcomes, my personal experiences have not tracked to that evidence.
It turns out that being more open only leads to improved outcomes when your support group is actually supportive. I don't think Dora's best choice is more open and less defensive. It might be. It might not be. So when I say I think she's wrong, I'm saying I shade more towards "it might not be." YMMV, of course.
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Sounds like my mileage does vary, yes. I do think that being more open and less defensive in relationships leads to better outcomes overall. I guess (emphasis on the word guess) that maybe you're concerned that the risk of being more open is that you will be hurt? Yes, that is possible. But in avoiding that risk, you're also avoiding the potential of a much closer, healthier relationship. So in that sense, overall, you are still better off being more open, even if in particular instance you might think in hindsight that you should not have been.
If your support group is not supportive... well this may sound glib, but it's not a support group then, is it?
What do you mean by "it's better to do a thing" if not that it "leads to better outcomes"? I'm a little confused by that.
NilsO:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 11 Mar 2015, 00:22 ---I think that Jeph is giving us a message here. Two adults can have a disagreement and then make up. There doesn't have to be a prolonged separation, cold silences and mediation. Sometimes, a heartfelt apology, clear understanding of the problem and a hug is enough.
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Possibly, but remember that Dora and Marten had several disagreements before breaking up. This was just the first warning, I guess more will come. It seems Dora is slowly heading for a friendless life (OK, she still has Mieville, unless she has run away, we have not seen her for a very long time).
As for stable relationships in general, they do not make good stories. Therefore, the main characters in QC only have short term relationships, which sooner or later will fail. Secondary characters, like Steve and Cosette, or Will and Penelope, may form more stable relationships, but the consequence is that they are more or less disappearing from the series. There are just not many interesting things to tell. The same thing seems to be happening with Marigold and Dale, they are slowly disappearing from the series.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: ZoeB on 11 Mar 2015, 01:36 ---squee
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This is basically the reason you come here, isn't it Zoe? :wink:
--- Quote from: NilsO on 11 Mar 2015, 02:05 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 11 Mar 2015, 00:22 ---I think that Jeph is giving us a message here. Two adults can have a disagreement and then make up. There doesn't have to be a prolonged separation, cold silences and mediation. Sometimes, a heartfelt apology, clear understanding of the problem and a hug is enough.
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As for stable relationships in general, they do not make good stories.
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It all depends on the amount of effort you are willing to put into writing them. To me arbitrary and cookie-cutter 'teh dramaz' are a lazy way of creating character interaction and growth. There are other ways of doing it without having the characters descend into fights every time you feature them on-screen.
ReindeerFlotilla:
--- Quote from: Tova on 11 Mar 2015, 01:49 ---
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 11 Mar 2015, 00:40 ---Just because it might better if we did it a thing, does it follow that we should do that thing? While I think there's decent scientific evidence to support the idea that being more open and less defensive leads to better outcomes, my personal experiences have not tracked to that evidence.
It turns out that being more open only leads to improved outcomes when your support group is actually supportive. I don't think Dora's best choice is more open and less defensive. It might be. It might not be. So when I say I think she's wrong, I'm saying I shade more towards "it might not be." YMMV, of course.
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Sounds like my mileage does vary, yes. I do think that being more open and less defensive in relationships leads to better outcomes overall. I guess (emphasis on the word guess) that maybe you're concerned that the risk of being more open is that you will be hurt? Yes, that is possible. But in avoiding that risk, you're also avoiding the potential of a much closer, healthier relationship. So in that sense, overall, you are still better off being more open, even if in particular instance you might think in hindsight that you should not have been.
If your support group is not supportive... well this may sound glib, but it's not a support group then, is it?
What do you mean by "it's better to do a thing" if not that it "leads to better outcomes"? I'm a little confused by that.
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The operative word there being might. Might be better = might lead to better outcomes. Might not, too.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained is limited by what you can afford to venture. Open only works if the door swings both ways. Everyone claims they want to hear your truth, but it turns out that most just want you to confirm their beliefs. Marten would be open to open. Hanners, too. Don't know about any other cast member.
rfrank dodelijk:
today's is a very disappointing comic, but I draw comfort from the fact that it does not feature Claire.
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