Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
Tova:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 11 Mar 2015, 02:28 ---The operative word there being might. Might be better = might lead to better outcomes. Might not, too.
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Okay, well I'm not going to try to argue with a "might" (anything might happen, I suppose), except to point out that this statement is a long long way from your opening bold statement that Dora was wrong.
Bottom line: she has decided that she should be less defensive and more open, and I happen to agree. I'll just leave you with that.
Edit: you didn't originally say it "might be better", btw - you said "it would be better".
ReindeerFlotilla:
No body is perfect. It would better for (just about) anyone to be more open and less defensive, if everyone was. I should have loaded my original post with more qualifiers.
As an immediate response, I stand by my assessment. "More open and less defensive" is, I think, the wrong choice. In the long term, that could be different, but a relationship doesn't happen in the long term. It happens now, just like everything else.
Defensive and closed are what Dora is. Contrast that to Tai's apology which is about what she did. Trying become something other than what you usually ends in pain. Focusing on what you did, and what you want to differently provides clear goals and unambiguous boundaries.
Changing the behavior seems like a better plan. Let's not mischaracterize my opening bold statement while we're pointing out what I originally said. If you want to hold me to to "would be better" you've got to accept that I think Dora is wrong and Dora probably needs to focus on smaller items. I may not have qualified one statement enough, but I made it pretty clear otherwise that I was stating my view, not a bold declaration of universal truth.
swapna:
Man, that reminds me soo much of arguments that weren't really about the content of the words (One can argue about Tai or Dora being "right" or wrong here), but about the tone. If Dora would have just told Tai to lay it off any nicer, something like 'I get that you worry, but I don't want to talk about it right now. How about we do something else?', there wouldn't be any fight to speak of.
But I can't really think about it since Tai and Dora seem to stand a hand-width apart at least. How did that happen o.O
And how did Tai manage to change her body-type that much? I remember her being small and having a relative androgynous body type...
Zebediah:
People do gain weight sometimes, you know. When a skinny woman gains a few pounds often the first place they go is the butt.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 11 Mar 2015, 04:23 ---People do gain weight sometimes, you know. When a skinny woman gains a few pounds often the first place they go is the butt.
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The early strips with Tai indicate that she had body image issues arising from homophobic bullying at high school. Having a woman who loves her and is clearly very impressed with her body might have changed lots of things for her. For example, she's obviously stopped binding down her breasts and she might be eating more healthily.
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