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QC and the Bechdel test
TheEvilDog:
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--- Quote from: jwhouk on 10 Mar 2015, 04:14 ---Y'know, RF, you could start a separate thread on this - "QC and the Bechdel Test".
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I will if the results are interesting.
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Interesting or not, it needs to be done, because it's pushing the point of becoming a thread hijack. By my count there are roughly 2 pages worth of posts on the subject; and as this is something that encompasses QC as a whole it's kind of beyond the scope of the weekly discussion thread.
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In other words, start a proper thread discussing the effects of the Bechdel test as a whole, rather than keep talking about it in a WCDT.
vforvancouver:
--- Quote from: Tub on 10 Mar 2015, 07:47 ---The most recent comic I could find that might pass the reverse Bechdel test is #2743, 170 comics ago, but only if that elf robot identifies as male. The comic doesn't say.
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It took me some time to figure out who that elf robot was. Then it hit me: you were talking about C.E.R.E.A.L.
mustang6172:
Nevermind QC getting an F. How does anything get a letter grade on the Bechdel test? Isn't it supposed to be pass/fail?
ReindeerFlotilla:
Woah, now. Taking it to too seriously :D
You can't evaluate the underlying question the test is asking with a pass fail, and the test is only useful if you can find some other means to employ it.
The point of it is to demonstrate that movie industry doesn't treat women in the same manner as men.
Early QC seems to fail (get an F) at least up to the point where Raven becomes a regular. This easy to prove. In the first 45 strips not one passes the Bechdel test. 26% pass the reverse Bechdel. Two men speak to each other about something other than a woman. Most of the other strips either fail the Reverse test on counts 1 (the majority being Marten and Faye talking) or 2 (Marten and Steve/Pintsize discuss Faye). At this point in the strip, Faye is mostly playing cypher to Marten's interest in her, so the time they spend together could be argued to count against passing the test. But that's not in the rules, and on the individual strip level (just like the individual movie level when applying the test to Hollywood) you either pass, or you fail.
At a certain point I expect the ratio to change radically. Marten barely hangs out with any men through the latter half of the run.
I'm reviewing the first 400 strips because it only occurred to me yesterday that I could calculate the Reverse Bechdel in parallel and get a real time comparison.
pwhodges:
It seems to me that the Bechdel test inherently penalises having women talk about relationships; this strip is about relationships, so is the test really worth spending this much effort on here?
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