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Pilchard123:
As a heads-up, "jipped" or "gypped" is likely to be from a stereotype of Romani people being cheats or swindlers.

LeeC:
Weird, I did not know that. I only ever seen it written as "jipped" but seeing it written as "gypped" would have tipped me off to it. Looking at your link, the verb may have also originated from Ancient Greek word for Vulture and was used as a way to describe a thieving house servant.

I am wondering if that's where the term gypsy comes from. The Romani people traveled through the area and got it as a derogatory name from the Greeks and it stuck as they spread through Europe. I have also seen the term "gypsy" applied to non Romani people in the modern era. Usually describing grifters from a marginal part of society, and ones that move around a lot. Like the Irish Traveller community in the UK (also called pikies), and people in touristy areas of Europe that try to steal or rip off tourists, but are not Romani.

jwhouk:
I have tried the Impossible Whopper. I was less than impressed.

Wingy:
My wife and I went vegan for a spell.  Any replacement meat is just that, a replacement.  The harder they try to get the same taste and mouthfeel of meat, the worse it tastes in our experience.  We've had the pea-based protein burgers and were also not impressed.  And in my case, neither was my lower tract.

We stayed vegan for a few years, then I got bored (I do the cooking) and have slowly substituted back a few meat items.  We now eat the occasional fish dish and I've found a turkey burger that tastes pretty good and microwaves or BBQs nicely.  Add in a turkey pepperoni and once in a great while some bacon and that pretty much covers out flesh-eating, as Spock would say.  We eat meat meals once or twice a week at most.  It's been almost 20 years since I've had more than an incidental amount of beef  or non-bacon pork.  Don't miss it; no plans to go back to daily meat.

Eating out is a different story - eating vegetarian can be very difficult.  We stick to chicken/fish when eating out and don't eat out all that often, so I don't really count that.  When asked, I just tell people we're mostly vegetarians and don't worry about it.  Just don't serve us beef or pork and most people get it, nor is it particularly onerous on them to match our dietary choices.

LTK:
I've been a vegetarian for maybe seven years out of convenience more than conviction, and I've never felt the need to add meat substitutes to my meals. You have a million vegetarian cooking blogs to get recipes from and with those, you know you're getting the intended version of what you're making rather than a meat dish with a subpar replacement. (Well, if you're a decent cook at least.) I use a variety of beans, lentils, and grains in my cooking and I've never felt like I'm missing a thing. However, I still use eggs and dairy semi-regularly, so I can see how vegan cooking could get a bit dull without those, but some of my favourite meals are vegan so there's plenty of room to work even excluding everything meat and meat-like.

That being said, I have tried some meat substitutes from a few delivery restaurants, and there's one called the Future Burger that I really liked. I wouldn't mistake it for the real thing, but that doesn't matter; it just tastes really good. It also helps that the restaurant uses quality ingredients for the rest of the burger: they use proper bread for the bun, instead of the dry, spongy stuff that usually passes for hamburger buns.

I've not tried the Impossible Whopper but even when I still ate meat, Burger King tasted awful to me. If their meat substitutes are gross, then I'd sooner attribute it to Burger King in general being gross than meat substitutes per se.

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