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WCDT 2927-2931 (30 March to 3 April 2015)
Neko_Ali:
--- Quote from: swapna on 02 Apr 2015, 04:27 ---And, while I think the 'asserting dominance over the smaller, weaker female'-Comment took it way too far, it's fair to tell somebody that they're not your friend and they went overboard. Especially when they aren't - their first interaction mostly Claire telling Faye that she's stupid, and Faye having none of that. They may become friends, but at the moment...
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Which is part of my point. Calling Claire out for pushing to far is all well and fine. And probably needed as Claire does tend to push things to far from time to time. That's not what Faye did though. She went into full aggressive bitch mode, as she tends to do. She literally got into Claire's face to the point where Claire was backing up fearfully. That's not a way to establish a friendship. As far as 'you haven't earned the right to sass me', that's pure hypocrisy. Faye sasses everyone. How has she 'earned the right' to do that?
--- Quote from: SeaWoodStage on 02 Apr 2015, 05:33 ---I’m also with you on the archives: I have a bad sense of time and my archive-fu is rubbish! I think you might be right about that though, I seem to remember Claire once asking Faye “I don’t know, are you a bit stupid?” or something similar.
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That is the previously mentioned 'beer can on the head' strip. And Claire did have it coming with that one. Her comment wasn't sass, though maybe she was intending it that way. It was just plain insulting.
Edited for quote mistake derping.
valkygrrl:
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 02 Apr 2015, 06:05 ---Which is part of my point. Calling Claire out for pushing to far is all well and fine. And probably needed as Claire does tend to push things to far from time to time. That's not what Faye did though. She went into full aggressive bitch mode, as she tends to do. She literally got into Claire's face to the point where Claire was backing up fearfully. That's not a way to establish a friendship. As far as 'you haven't earned the right to sass me', that's pure hypocrisy. Faye sasses everyone. How has she 'earned the right' to do that?
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This.
Except for one thing, that not only isn't the way to establish a friendship, it's completely unacceptable behavior period. If it had been Steve telling Claire off along with threatening body language would people be as quick to defend or does the Claire hatedom run that deep?
hedgie:
I actually think that this strip really shows how obnoxious that Faye can be. Picking on Claire like that, since she won't or can't fight back is almost like kicking a puppy or kitten (whichever one likes the most). She's basically an innocent, whether she's being "annoying" or not.
CaptainFish:
--- Quote from: tywren on 02 Apr 2015, 00:13 ---And therein lies the problem, when she said those things to Marten, she was trying to draw his attention to the fact that his girlfriend was tap dancing all over her last nerve. To which he replied with an "I Know, Isn't It Great" attitude. After trying twice and failing, Faye took maters into her own hands, and i really can't fault her for it, because the person who should have been telling Clare to tone it down, was instead passively encouraging her to take it up to eleven.
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Yeah, he really should've controlled his uppity girl. How dare she comment on a metal penis. Girlfriends should be seen and not heard.
I know that's an exaggeration, but if Faye was really trying to say, 'be civil to your girlfriend, bro, because I'm incapable of being civil to her,' then that just makes the situation seem worse to me. I also have a hard time finding fault with most of Claire's words. Based on how Faye reacted to the support group suggestion, it's pretty clear she never would've considered it without Claire's suggestion, so there's nothing wrong with feeling good about giving that suggestion. Claire didn't even refer to Faye changing her mind or anything similar that would've been a take down of Faye's snap judgement. The metal penis was bound to be a point of discussion. I do think the 'all [] projects dick-first' line was a leap and a shitty thing to say. However, I read the no-sass rule as being more about Claire's general demeanour towards Faye, literally 'you don't get to banter with me', rather than a take down of the specific thing Claire said that went too far.
I will agree to the point others have made about this being related to her withdrawl symptoms. It's definitely amplifying her characteristic behaviour rather than creating new behaviour though.
ASB84:
I think it's an interesting point about Claire being taken down a peg for some of her more obnoxious/misguided traits, and I'd certainly agree that she seemingly bullies Clinton to the point where he becomes a sympathetic character, despite having some rather unsympathetic/off-putting moments. I think it's fair to say there's some fault on both sides here. However, at the end of the day, I'm more inclined to take the side of the person who was being a bit cheeky and obnoxious, over the person who's being downright abrasive and threatening. Faye's going through a rough time and Claire does suffer a bit of foot in mouth disease, but Faye's providing a much bigger "Whoa, not cool!" moment in my view.
As for the previous incident with the beer can...Claire's choice of words was stupidly blunt and a bit callous, but once again, Faye's threat of violence (which Claire specifically mentioned) crossed the line, even though it was played for laughs. It's an issue that Faye clearly still needs to work through.
The question has been raised as to where this is going. I'd be inclined to say it'll be quickly resolved, or it'll be the first hiccup in Marten and Claire's relationship (albeit one that's smoothed over in short order), with him ending up defending Faye. It's been suggested that Marten stands up to Faye, but...well, this is Marten we're talking about here. I'd be very surprised if he suddenly gained that kind of intestinal fortitude; I just have trouble seeing that kind of development take place.
In fact, if I can channel my inner David Letterman for a moment...
Top 10 Things That Will Happen in QC Before Marten Stands Up To Faye
10. Cosette learns how to juggle.
9. Wil writes a poem that isn't hilariously pretentious garbage.
8. Yelling Bird uses no profanity for a whole strip, apologises for previous outbursts.
7. Hanners puts an ad on Craigslist, "Friend With Benefits Wanted!"
6. Raven returns.
5. Dora begs the rest of the cast to tell her how to run her life.
4. Sven and Hannelore...together at last!
3. Week long arc featuring The Bros meeting their British counterparts, The Lads.
2. Jeph cameos in an extended - and dated - parody of the Architect scene from The Matrix Reloaded.
And the number one thing that will happen in QC before Marten stands up to Faye...
1. The Shame Orb becomes canon.
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