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Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015

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BenRG:
So... A couple of mysteries to round out the month.

Firstly: Is Gavia really ashamed of her attack? If so, how do we square this circle with her nearly cooking those kids? I think that she's ashamed, but I also think that she's got a very short temper as well as a tendency to react without thinking. This is not a good personality combination for a girl with super powers.

Now... Secondly and more interesting, why has Alice brought the space kids to see Old Amos? It's possible that, as a town elder, he's the best choice to spread the word that they are (mostly) harmless. However, that's making assumptions about an old man's influence. Maybe, instead, Jeph intends to use him to tell some back story. Something along the lines of " when I was young... " Alice isn't very forthcoming, so, any exposition about her and her role will have to come from someone else. As probably the oldest normal human in town, Amos is ideally placed to tell the tale.

Finally... Am I the only one who has started to see Ardent's smile as saying: "Vacant. Please try again later"?

wlewisiii:
Hmm.  Rather more like the relationship between the Lord of the Manor (Alice)  and the Manor's reeve (you never "just visit")

Jesus DeSaad:
Is it just me or does this entire concept or threatening people with violence sound wrong?

Young dude just saw this floating woman nearly burn everything he holds dear into a crisp, am I the only one who understands why he doesn't want her around any more? And then there's this superwoman who threatens him with physical violence against trying to protect his own people? What the fuck, Jacques? You think it's funny to threaten just because it's a dude? You think it's empowering to women or something? What if the roles were reversed?

Let's see, a male demon-like floating being appeared in town, started burning it up, Superman stepped in and takes demon away, then the demon dude comes back. He says everything is fine, but one woman doesn't trust him around her loved ones, so she tells him to get the fuck out of her town. Then Superman reappears, and tells the woman that if she speaks again he will enjoy beating her to death.

Does this sound empowering to any of you? Let's continue the story.

Superman and Demon man and his sister who looks like a Succubus go to see the village elder. It's an elderly woman. She tells the demon that if he tries anything funny again she'll kick his ass. At which point the Demon dude scoffs at her and Superman humors her. "Hey Demon man I won't be around to protect you when she kicks your ass". You can almost hear Alice being patronizing.

Is this acceptable behavior? Or is it okay when women do it because feminism or whatever you think feminism is?

I'm not saying change the character behavior, but if you want it to look believable, well everyone in the village now thinks Superman, I mean Alice, is a huge dick, and they don't want her around. She's actually a bad guy, of the Doctor Doom variety: a villain who thinks she knows better and that only her opinion matters.

improvnerd:
In Alice's place, how would you have handled the situation?

Jesus DeSaad:
Bring the village elder to my place after explaining the situation, instead of bringing two demon-like beings and letting them sight-see around the town they almost eradicated. Try to diffuse the very palpable and completely understandable fear of the villagers with reason, instead of "OBEY MY ILLOGICAL WHIMS OR I WILL BEAT YOU TO DEATH AND LAUGH WHILE AT IT".

She's the one who's supposed to be thousands of years old, and she displays the temperament of a child with ADHD on a sugar rush. That's just bad writing.

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