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PandaOnFire

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« on: 03 Jan 2005, 22:28 »

Any ska fans around here?

I just bought Catch 22's LIVE album+DVD and Steetlight Manifesto's " Everything Goes Numb" album. I must say that they're both fucking brilliant. Catch 22 is just as good live as they are in the studios. Though, I don't think Catch 22's bassist can look any more geeky. Honestly, he looks like one of the stereotypical nerds from 80 TV shows. Oh well, he writes some rad basslines.


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SeanBateman

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« Reply #1 on: 03 Jan 2005, 23:00 »

Keasby nights is maybe my favourite ska album ever, but Dinosaur sounds was terrible.
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RaideR

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« Reply #2 on: 03 Jan 2005, 23:48 »

United nations of Ska Vol. 2 is a good ska-record which contains ska from all over the world
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osaki

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« Reply #3 on: 04 Jan 2005, 00:01 »

is less than jake ska?
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SeanBateman

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« Reply #4 on: 04 Jan 2005, 00:17 »

of course, this is all nu ska, not classic ska which is far more similar to reggae. And yes, Less Than Jake is ska
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MeekRat

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« Reply #5 on: 04 Jan 2005, 00:52 »

I always thought LTJ was a really weak ska band... at least their Hello Rockview album. Losing Streak wasnt bad.

Catch 22, Streetlight Manifesto, The Specials, Mighty Mighty Bosstones and Reel Big Fish are good ska bands. Aquabats are good too but very silly and a lot of people dont like them because of it. Five Iron Frenzy is also very good :)

but i dont listen to ska as much as i used to...
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geoff

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« Reply #6 on: 04 Jan 2005, 01:24 »

I try not to think about the Aquabats too much. It just ends up reminding me of a traumatizing experience I had one night I went to one of their shows.

I do thoroughly enjoy the Aquabats, but that night makes me sad. ;_;

And yes. Ska is fucking grand. If I had a digital camera I'd point you all to my super-sexy two-tone tattoo on my right arm.

Also-- Yeah, the bassist of Catch 22 does look like a huge dork, but it's pretty rad. They're new singer however, ugh. He looks like the kinda guy who crashes parties while screaming "GO 49ERS!!!!" But that might just be because he's a big tough-lookin guy who always wears sports jerseys (at least when I've seen him).
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Sturge

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« Reply #7 on: 04 Jan 2005, 01:40 »

I like Big D and the Kids Table
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honest_that_way

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« Reply #8 on: 04 Jan 2005, 05:43 »

Surely Less Than Jake are onyl Ska in the same way Sum 41 are punk? As in, only very loosely. Anyway, The Chancers rule, Eastern Bloc ska, what more could anyone want?
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« Reply #9 on: 04 Jan 2005, 08:45 »

Woohoo a Ska-Thread! ^^

Well...some of my favourite bands are Skalariak (classical jamaican Ska) Mr. Bubble B & The Coconuts (London Ska) Dr. Ring-Ding & The Senior Allstars (classical jamaican Ska) The Busters (London-Ska) and of course Ska-P (all different sorts of Ska in spanish ^^). Less than Jake kick ass too.
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« Reply #10 on: 04 Jan 2005, 08:49 »

rantanplan!
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« Reply #11 on: 04 Jan 2005, 09:01 »

word! they kick behind too! ^^
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geoff

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« Reply #12 on: 04 Jan 2005, 10:05 »

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I like Big D and the Kids Table


Fucking yes. :D
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« Reply #13 on: 04 Jan 2005, 12:15 »

woah, ^ my bro introduced me to ska and it is one of his greatest gifts to me.

also maybe all the ska albums he gave me when he switched over to the dark side(blood borthers......*shivers)

well, Reel Big Fish are fun and Lightyear were pretty cool(ska-ish) but im afriad Less Then Jake are devilspawn
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exliontamer

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« Reply #14 on: 04 Jan 2005, 14:47 »

Ups for Big D. I also like Slapstick a whole lot.

And to the guy who said traditional ska is similar to reggae...

Reggae is similar to ska! (And in the immortal words of Camp Anawana director Ug Lee) GET IT RIGHT OR PAY THE PRICE!

Now if only I had a salami stuffed inside a football...
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Taste_of_blood

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« Reply #15 on: 04 Jan 2005, 15:29 »

I started to vaguely get into Ska.... then I saw Capdown supporting someone else (no idea who) and my interest was destroyed.... my GOD they sucked..
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LoveandaMolotovCocktail

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« Reply #16 on: 04 Jan 2005, 15:31 »

THE AQUABATS!!
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exliontamer

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« Reply #17 on: 04 Jan 2005, 16:06 »

Capdown did a split with Link 80. Link 80 also rocks hard.

the struggle continues...
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PandaOnFire

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« Reply #18 on: 04 Jan 2005, 17:19 »

LTJ is Skacore, as in they're not really ska but they do have heavy influence. Same with Big D and the Kid's Table, but they really do sound like punk with horns rather than actual ska.

Yeah, the new singer looks like a loser but he has a nice voice.

My friend and I are starting a ska band, I'm singing. So far we have a trumpet player, a guitarist, a drummer, and me. Our name is Coked Up, Yayed Out.
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osaki

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« Reply #19 on: 04 Jan 2005, 18:48 »

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yes, Less Than Jake is ska


then i listen to some ska.
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« Reply #20 on: 05 Jan 2005, 13:45 »

less than jake like... used to be pretty ska but now they're just boring faux punks. i saw them at skate and surf and was very disappointed they basically played only their lame new songs. i like the hello rockview, pezcore, and losing streak albums. (it's all the same but all fun!)

umm favourite ska bands... reel big fish! definitely! turn your radio off is my fav album. and catch 22 is excellent (mmm keasbey nights). big d and the kids table is awesome but i don't know them that well (saw them with rbf and catch 22 over the summer. wooo!). save ferris is pretty cool, but they're hit-and-miss (i like it means everything a lot though). the hippos are great too! so sweet. also the mighty mighty bosstones, suburban legends, and two of my fav local bands: arrogant sons of bitches and too short notice!
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« Reply #21 on: 05 Jan 2005, 14:33 »

as far as ska/punk hybrid no one does it better (well, in my opinion) then the Rudiments.  Reel Big Fish is pretty damn cool.  uhmm, oh yeah the ethopians.

must remember to bring my kick ass ska comp on the bus to work tomorrow.

and is just me and my masterful skills of observation or has no one mentioned the specials?
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« Reply #22 on: 05 Jan 2005, 16:28 »

Quote from: betteroffdead
less than jake like... used to be pretty ska but now they're just boring faux punks. i saw them at skate and surf and was very disappointed they basically played only their lame new songs. i like the hello rockview, pezcore, and losing streak albums. (it's all the same but all fun!)


obviously you just saw a shitty show then, because when i saw them they were damn fantastic. they played tons of stuff from pezcore and hello rockview. i think they played maybe 2 or 3 new songs total. one cannot deny that their live show is friggin energetic as well.
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MeekRat

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« Reply #23 on: 05 Jan 2005, 16:46 »

of course ska sounds like reggea..its the white man's reggase :-P
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« Reply #24 on: 05 Jan 2005, 16:58 »

o yea the specials. i have to hear more of them. i've only heard a few songs.

hmm well geoff i guess i just had bad luck then. it was energetic and everything, but it just wasn't as fun skanking around to songs i didn't like. that's cool they were awesome when you saw them though!
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exliontamer

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« Reply #25 on: 06 Jan 2005, 06:47 »

I do remember saying get it right or pay the price...so here is the price:

Ska has existed for far longer than reggae. Ska was pioneered during the 50s and 60s in the dancehalls of Jamaica...definitely NOT by white people. Ska was an upbeat dance music which combined elements of the carribean music mento and American jazz. By the late 60s there were massive heatwaves in Jamaica and the DJs and beat selectors of the clubs (along with the music-listening masses) decided that a slower, more easily dancable music was needed. Thus rocksteady was born, the slow cousin of ska. Around this time skinhead culture was born. Yes, that's right, the original skinheads were ornery dancehall goers, not racist bigots. Also skinhead music was very perverse for some reason and almost always referenced sex...go figure. Reggae is a religious perversion of rocksteady, which in most cases(not all) includes hidden (or not so hidden) rastafarian agendas. Some of which are racist and homophobic. This early phase of ska is known as the "first wave." Aside from artists like Desmond Dekkar, it never really became that popular outside of Jamaica.

Second wave or "two tone" ska begins in the 1970s in Britain. It was influenced heavily by the punk movement. The most famous two tone band is probably the Specials, who blended traditional ska with 60s mod rock like the Who and such. The Specials gained popularity by opening for bands like the Clash. From the late seventies and through the eighties this "second wave" ska enjoyed a hay-day in London clubs and became tied in heavily with blue collar workers, many of whom identified with the West Indian folks who had first introduced the music to England. Eventually this lead to a revival of the "rude boy" (or Jamaican gangster) lifestyle, which led to the revival of skinhead culture and eventually the advent of Oi music, or blue collar streetpunk. Second wave also came in America in the form of bands like Madness who gained popularity with "new wave" listeners.

Ska truly debuted in America with acts like Fishbone and the Mighty Mighty Bosstones during the mid to late eighties. They begun what is referred to as the "third wave" of ska, which mixed ska heavily with american punk and hardcore influences. The term "ska-core" was even coined to describe this sound. This was modified by bands like Operation Ivy, who did away with the traditional instruments like organ and brass. Some bands stuck to the brass sound and a variety of "punk with horns" style bands emerged like Less Than Jake (who based themselves heavily on the British band Snuff). Also during the early nineties in New York and DC there was a large two tone ska revival with bands like the Toasters, the Slackers and the Pietasters leading the pack.

Ska still survives today in bands like Streetlight Manifesto, Big D, MU330, etc etc who continue to build on the foundations of ska, adding their own touches along the way.

The moral: SKA CAME FIRST...reggae just happens to be the more well-known bastard cousin of ska.
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« Reply #26 on: 06 Jan 2005, 07:50 »

Slapstick is so much more > Less Than Jake. They were definitly one of my favorite bands in high school. If anyone has their last cd (The green cd, which gathered all their material into one cd), Theres a picture of me on the inlay card, singing/screaming with the singer. Im wearing a white shirt, and Ive got long dark hair. That's my claim to fame.

I really liked the old school new school ska (confused? Think the first wave of Third Wave bands. Still confused? Um...well...Mid 90's Ska. Better?). MU330, Mealticket, The Blue Meanies, and of course, the MIghty Mighty Bosstones (Before Dickie started actually trying to sing).

I've always been a sucker for a good dance track, so ska shows were an excellent alternative to all the punk shows I was going to as a kid. Good times man. Good times.
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« Reply #27 on: 06 Jan 2005, 08:41 »

I loathe Big D And The Kids Table. I've seen them live 3 times (while trying to see other bands - like Catch 22 and RBF).  

Have you watched their bassist? I don't know what they call that, but it's silly.
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geoff

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« Reply #28 on: 06 Jan 2005, 08:48 »

Why exactly do you loathe Big D?
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« Reply #29 on: 06 Jan 2005, 09:34 »

I thourougly enjoy ska, especially The Ninjas.  They're a local ska band, but they're fairly popular around the midwest.

Although, i find ska to be much better live than recorded.  Dancing to a CD just isn't the same.

I've been meaning to get into some actual ska, the more reggae influenced stuff.  Anyone have any suggestions?
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« Reply #30 on: 06 Jan 2005, 09:42 »

My suggestion is don't.

But anyway. I dig the Ninjas. It's a shame Stu left to join The Know How. He was a rad dude.
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« Reply #31 on: 06 Jan 2005, 11:06 »

Big D are the nicest people in the world, seen em a couple of times, the last time we ended bringing them to a local club and getting ridiculously drunk and talked rubbish for ages!
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« Reply #32 on: 06 Jan 2005, 11:19 »

Yeah, anyone who saw Big D and didn't enjoy themselves clearly has much greater issues than just that...

And captainawesome, read my post above. Reggae never really influenced ska, in fact they ceased to even be the same genre of music after the 1980s. If you want to listen to traditional ska I'd check out anything on Trojan records. They have these awesome boxed sets you can buy for like 25 bucks at most Tower records and Virgin locations. They are 3 CDs per box. They collect all different movements of ska, like dub, dancehall, reggae, two tone, etc. Very good stuff and very educational.
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« Reply #33 on: 06 Jan 2005, 13:27 »

Quote from: betteroffdead
o yea the specials. i have to hear more of them.

Yes, you do! :D

The Specials kicked ass!  They were the perfect band to break out from that era if you follow the skinhead family tree.  I'm not so sure I like any post-Specials ska... I guess the MMBT's had some good stuff going for a while... then all of the white-boy American ska groups got big for a couple of minutes and then suddenly, the late-90s ska boom ended.  My taste is probably a bit different because when it comes to Jamaican music, I'd much prefer to listen to earlier ska/roots/dub etc.

Didn't the Specials do a song with Rancid a few years ago?
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exliontamer

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« Reply #34 on: 06 Jan 2005, 16:21 »

Neville provided guest vocals on the song "Hooligans" from Life Won't Wait.
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« Reply #35 on: 06 Jan 2005, 17:43 »

some pretty great ska-bands are, as far as i'm concerned, reel big fish and, of course SKA-P.
i just love ska-p, those crazy spanish bastards won my heart the instant i listened to "el gato lopez".
oh, and rantanplan is quite good as well.
also, mad caddies, if the are considered ska^^
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« Reply #36 on: 06 Jan 2005, 20:24 »

ska, yes, muy awesome

Catch 22's quite good, though i think Reel Big Fish is even better... (i just like the trumpet over the sax)

Also, The Specials... old school style, yo

And just cuz folks have mentioned both before... repitition is good, i say
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geoff

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« Reply #37 on: 06 Jan 2005, 22:12 »

Ya know what's rad everyone?

Reel Big Fish is coming to my university next month to put on a free show.
Yes. I am totally excited. :D
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« Reply #38 on: 08 Jan 2005, 09:03 »

the 4th wave is coming. get ready and hold on to your trombones.

i love that i saw this thread, my friends and i have been talking non-stop about ska lately and how the 4th wave is prepping to hit the scenes bigger and better than ever.

so get ready everyone, and don't forget your two-toned pants!
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« Reply #39 on: 08 Jan 2005, 13:28 »

This Ska moment brought to you by CKY:

Bam: You listen to Ska?
Some random Kid: Yeah...
Bam: That stuff fucking sucks!


That being said...I love ska.
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Jamoky

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« Reply #40 on: 08 Jan 2005, 16:12 »

I like "ska."

but what I mean by ska is punk with brass instruments.
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Staplegun

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« Reply #41 on: 08 Jan 2005, 21:20 »

Quote from: geoff
Why exactly do you loathe Big D?


I was extremely turned off by their live show, and I just don't feel like dancing to their music, I don't "get their vibe." I can't really enjoy what they do. With, say, RBF for the Bosstones I can dance to it, or just kinda hang out.
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« Reply #42 on: 09 Jan 2005, 10:24 »

I officaially heart exliontamer.
Your little history post made me happy.  To everyone that loves newer ska, they should definately know the name Asain Man Records. Mike Park is a really terrific guy, his label hold the names of such bands as MU330, Big D, The Toasters (the fucking toasters!!!), The Rudiments, Chris Murray, The Peacocks, and handful of really kickin' Japanese bands whose names I cannot recall. They also heald bands like Alkaline Trio, The Lawrence Arms, LTJ and Angelo Moore.
Some other really great ska bands are the Skatellites, Streetlight Manifesto, Madness, The Chinkees. I cant recall any others that people havent already mentioned, but thats my little input.

PS The Skatellites show i went to a couple of months ago was AMAZING. Nothing like hotboxing a Toronto club bathroom and yelling "RASTAFARA!"
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« Reply #43 on: 09 Jan 2005, 10:56 »

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Bam: You listen to Ska?
Some random Kid: Yeah...
Bam: That stuff fucking sucks!


Because HIM is just toppin' the charts right? :p
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exliontamer

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« Reply #44 on: 09 Jan 2005, 11:42 »

Skibas_clavicle...I heart you right back. Asian Man records is the best fucking punk/ska/indie label out there. Mike Park is a real life superhero in my opinion. The holy trinity of Asian Man records is Slapstick, The Broadways and the Lawrence Arms. Check them out...in that order. Brendan Kelly, Dan Andriano, Chris McCaughan, Dan Hanaway...very talented people.

And geoff gets my support in the form of a big ol' "BURNED!" Oooooh, how does that feel Bam Margera?!?!
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« Reply #45 on: 09 Jan 2005, 13:17 »

In the interest of stating a contrary opinion, I must state here and now that I don't like Ska.

At all.

Indeed, a good portion of it actively annoys me.
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« Reply #46 on: 09 Jan 2005, 14:46 »

Good to hear Khar, except for the fact that nobody cares. :)
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« Reply #47 on: 09 Jan 2005, 14:50 »

Good. I'm tired of people trying to convert me back from the dark side or w/e.

I still soured the mood of the thread. Or something. Go me!
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« Reply #48 on: 11 Jan 2005, 11:52 »

Ladies and gentlemen, like all good hipsters (oxymoron) I was once in a ska band. Get our final album for free http://homepages.nyu.edu/~dbm243/ right there! Long live the Konami Code!
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« Reply #49 on: 11 Jan 2005, 12:36 »

I enjoy listening to Less Than Jake, The Aquabats (awesome shows), Mighty Bosstones, and the Mad Caddies.

A few years ago I saw The Skalites, and that was really enjoyable.
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