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WCDT Strips 3086-3090 (9th to 13th November 2015)

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Lubricus:

--- Quote from: hedgie on 11 Nov 2015, 23:37 ---I stand by my assertion that Momo in her current chassis is basically "teen Momo".  Though she may have skills and knowledge that allow her to interact better in an adult world, and hold her job at the library, she is still growing as a person.  She still can't grok how some things work, but isn't the sort who would shut out voices (like May) who offer a different perspective.  At some point, if the comic continues long enough, she might migrate to another chassis when she feels more "mature".

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Something like this?  :-D

osaka:
I could see May on that one tho.

swapna:

--- Quote from: hedgie on 11 Nov 2015, 23:37 ---I stand by my assertion that Momo in her current chassis is basically "teen Momo".  Though she may have skills and knowledge that allow her to interact better in an adult world, and hold her job at the library, she is still growing as a person.  She still can't grok how some things work, but isn't the sort who would shut out voices (like May) who offer a different perspective.  At some point, if the comic continues long enough, she might migrate to another chassis when she feels more "mature".

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I don't know, growing as a person and hearing dissenting voices is something I hope I will do at all ages, even though I'm really not a teenager any more. She is young (afair, she's between two and three years, comic time), but AI learn and mature faster than humans.


--- Quote from: BenRG on 11 Nov 2015, 23:36 ---May, if you can't tell the difference between people being forced into the black economy by circumstances and outright embezzlement to obtain non-necessity goods, then you need to pay more attention at the support group meetings.

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Yeah, but she wanted to be a fighter jet. Maybe she qualified, but the military program stopped before she could get in? Or she was outright refused for "not being human"? There are similarities :)


--- Quote from: BenRG on 11 Nov 2015, 23:36 ---In some ways, Momo is a 'Trust Fund Activist': Someone with good intentions and who genuinely wants to help but whose social background renders her unable to really grasp the true nature of the issues. As a consequence, she comes across as condescending or pious to those who actually do live with the issues.

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I think you hit it on the head, there, with "trust fund activist" but she is actually not in a position to not know. She visits the meetings with May, and either she doesn't listen or doesn't believe the criminal AI (her first reaction to May in Dales glasses was to threaten her - yes, May was herself, but threatening her with trying to kill her? Isn't that a bit much for a few insults?)

ZoeB:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 11 Nov 2015, 23:36 ---In some ways, Momo is a 'Trust Fund Activist': Someone with good intentions and who genuinely wants to help but whose social background renders her unable to really grasp the true nature of the issues. As a consequence, she comes across as condescending or pious to those who actually do live with the issues.

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Remind me to tell you about my reactions during a conversation with the chair of the Sydney Sex Workers Collective some time. I make Momo look positively worldly. But like her, I listen. And like her, I hear. You'd be surprised how easy it is to relate to someone the polar opposite of "goody-goody" if you do that.

I always did see sex work as just another profession, intellectually. But talking with, and being friends with, sex workers aligned my heart with my head, despite my appallingly conventional and conservative background. Condescension is something I try to avoid. Going all pedagogical likewise. I fail of course, but at least I try, there's hope for me yet, so I'm told.

To repeat - the key is to try not to be an asshole. Do that, and you can't go very wrong. Don't do it, and piety or libertinism, they're just different styles of living. Actually, same if you do avoid it, "goody-goody" is more a personal style than anything else.

J:
how open-minded momo is really remains to be seen.

on the one hand, she's not being an asshole about bubsy & the fighters, but on the other, said non-assholedom does appear to be contingent on finding some way to fit them into an acceptable slot in her existing ideological framework.

the real test will be if she asks bubsy about her 'reasons' for joining the military, only to get the answer "Because I wanted to.". likewise, if she were to find out that some of the battlebots do have other options, but chose that profession purely because it appeals to them.

how would she react to AIs who live lives she ideologically disapproves of without some justification she can accept?

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