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WCDT Strips 3086-3090 (9th to 13th November 2015)
cesium133:
--- Quote from: Lubricus on 12 Nov 2015, 01:22 ---
--- Quote from: hedgie on 11 Nov 2015, 23:37 ---I stand by my assertion that Momo in her current chassis is basically "teen Momo". Though she may have skills and knowledge that allow her to interact better in an adult world, and hold her job at the library, she is still growing as a person. She still can't grok how some things work, but isn't the sort who would shut out voices (like May) who offer a different perspective. At some point, if the comic continues long enough, she might migrate to another chassis when she feels more "mature".
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Something like this? :-D
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Without noticing that it's about 1000 off, before clicking I had thought you were suggesting this...
BenRG:
--- Quote from: cesium133 on 12 Nov 2015, 05:56 ---
--- Quote from: Lubricus on 12 Nov 2015, 01:22 ---Something like this? :-D
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Without noticing that it's about 1000 off, before clicking I had thought you were suggesting this...
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Speaking seriously, the second option is very much what I would expect an 'adult' Momo chassis would look like.
katsmeat:
--- Quote from: J on 11 Nov 2015, 19:52 ---
--- Quote from: katsmeat on 11 Nov 2015, 17:15 ---The purpose of the Bechdale test is to make a real world point. It (or the mechdaletest) doesn't seem to have any relevance in a world without a community of AIs
Passing or failing it when applied to AI's isn't really a thing.
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the thing about the bechdale test that people have a tendency to miss is that it's really only meaningful in aggregate, as a generalized 'average' for the roll of female characters in fiction. the question of whether or not any given individual work passes it is completely meaningless and irrelevant.
remember, Gravity & Pacific Rim both fail the test, but Twilight is bechdale approved.
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I agree completely. Examining media with Bechdale is very much like measuring a person's fitness with their BMI - they're both simple and easy-to-apply tests that can provide some insight. But can also be very misleading.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: J on 11 Nov 2015, 22:05 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 11 Nov 2015, 21:32 ---Yes, I said "people". They're not homo sapiens and not made of proteins but so what?
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you've phrased that as though you expect someone to dispute it.
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Every now and then somebody here does just that.
They invariably turn out to also be racist about carbon-based people. Go figure. After they reveal that they don't last long.
Over in the QC world, AnthroPCs used to be referred to as "pets", and it took a long struggle and a constitutional amendment to get them even legal rights. Legal protection we've seen does not prevent job discrimination.
EDIT:
I got some feedback about this post which combined firmness and courtesy.
So, in the hope of undoing overstatements:
- The next person who registers and questions the status of QC AIs deserves to be treated as non-racist until they prove otherwise
- Everyone here now is being a DHB about fictional silicon-based people
J:
in comic-time, that 'long struggle' from pets to citizens has been what, 18 months or so?
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