Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDT - November 2015
Schwungrad:
--- Quote from: Morituri on 21 Nov 2015, 11:04 ---And, argh, don't get me started about your 'th' consonant! NOBODY (except German, again and some further-north European languages) has a consonant like that!
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German doesn't have that sound, actually. We have soft and hard ch to compensate. On the other hand, with Spanish and Arabic two of the most widespread languages on earth do have soft as well as hard th sounds, afaik.
I wasn't talking about the amount of consonants (growing up with Angstschweiß and stuff), but rather about the specific syllable 'blernd' (or blearned or however you would want to spell it).
osaka:
The "th" sound is closer to a middle ground between "d" and "c/z" in Spanish, honestly. Just because people from Madrid say "madriz" it doesn't mean it isn't a "d" sound in the end.
And Morituri, exactly what do you mean by "Sane" language? Because I think only Italian and Spanish fall under your description.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Morituri on 21 Nov 2015, 11:04 ---And, argh, don't get me started about your 'th' consonant!
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Boring. How many distinct British pronunciations of "ough" can you come up with? (You can hear me speak ten in the second half of this recording, listed in this post.)
Morituri:
Eh. Whatever.
While people following English spelling rules would never come up with 'blernd', people who grew up pronouncing English words have no reason to have trouble with it.
And for everyone else: Math is easy. French was easy. English is HARD.
In a few months study you can make yourself understood, which is a lower bar for basic communication than most; but really being good at it; understanding people at full speed and speaking properly with the right sounds so you don't sound like a foreigner, and the right grammar and the spellings and everything, is RIDICULOUSLY hard.
And whatever you claim, any language where you can have five consonants in a row at the end of a syllable that started with three consonants in a row, IS crazy.
pwhodges:
The Czech word for ice cream has no vowels, as I recall.
I knew a Pole who would sometimes spell his name Christoph, and sometimes Krzysztof. I never discovered the function of that z.
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