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Ghostbusters, Frozen, and the strange entitlement of fan culture

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sitnspin:
The dehumanizing impact of experiencing people at a technological remove has often times been demonstrated by the shock and remorse shown when those who perpetrate some of the more heinous online behavior are confronted in real space by the people they victimized. They often really didn't realize their words had an impact. The internet makes it so easy to just throw words out there without thought and just walk away without ever seeing the results.

Method of Madness:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 05 Jun 2016, 11:08 ---Even when the creators after then end said clearly 'Yes, they have been falling in love and started dating at this moment' people still resisted and refused to believe, because it didn't match what they wanted
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I haven't seen that show, but it's not always dismissing creators' words because you disagree, you can agree with their interpretation and still think anything outside of the work itself isn't canon.

Neko_Ali:

--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 06 Jun 2016, 16:35 ---
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 05 Jun 2016, 11:08 ---Even when the creators after then end said clearly 'Yes, they have been falling in love and started dating at this moment' people still resisted and refused to believe, because it didn't match what they wanted
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I haven't seen that show, but it's not always dismissing creators' words because you disagree, you can agree with their interpretation and still think anything outside of the work itself isn't canon.

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In this case, the creators stated after the show closed that Korra and Asami dating was canon. All the subtext that people were 'imagining' up to that point was deliberately put in to show their feelings for each other. It's just that, as a cartoon on Nick (technically on the Nick web site at the time but still), they could not show expressly more than them holding hands at the end.

Method of Madness:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 06 Jun 2016, 17:02 --- the creators stated after the show closed that Korra and Asami dating was canon
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I get why they couldn't show it directly on Nickelodeon, and I'm sure it makes sense as an interpretation considering that, but that doesn't undo what I said before. The creators may have said it, but that's still outside the work.

Tova:

--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 06 Jun 2016, 16:35 ---
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 05 Jun 2016, 11:08 ---Even when the creators after then end said clearly 'Yes, they have been falling in love and started dating at this moment' people still resisted and refused to believe, because it didn't match what they wanted
--- End quote ---
I haven't seen that show, but it's not always dismissing creators' words because you disagree, you can agree with their interpretation and still think anything outside of the work itself isn't canon.

--- End quote ---

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

You can agree with their interpretation but refuse to believe their interpretation? Aren't you contradicting yourself?

Unless you believe that absolutely anything outside the canon must not have happened, which is patently untrue. There's an entire world of stuff not described by the canon, we just can't say for certain whether it is true. There's nothing stopping you from believing it (as pointed out by Mark Hamill recently, as I'm sure you're aware).

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