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Ghostbusters, Frozen, and the strange entitlement of fan culture

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Method of Madness:
I'm saying I can agree with their interpretation, but that it's only an interpretation. If it's outside the work, it's not canon, but it can still be a reasonable interpretation of the work. My point is that the author saying something isn't inherently more valuable than my own interpretation of the work, or anyone else's.

Anyway, death of the author/word of god has been discussed to death elsewhere, I shouldn't have brought it up here.

Tova:
I don't actually think death of the author is relevant. What if some random fan had said those words. Can you agree with the interpretation and dismiss it at the same time?

Neko_Ali:
The point I am making is that Korra and Asami falling in love is not outside the work. It was a subtle sub-plot that had been running through the last two seasons. It is absolutely canon, there is no avoiding that. It's not an interpretation. People just don't want to accept it for a variety of reasons, mostly 'ew, gay'. If they would have been allowed to show it, they would have been more obvious about it, but the network funding them telling them no.

This isn't a case of JK Rowling bringing up that Dumbledore was gay years after the final book. This was people asking the creators "Hey, did the final scene mean those two are dating now" and them going "Yes, that's exactly what it means". So by even your own definition, It is canon. It happened in the work itself. It is not an 'interpretation', it is what the writers and creators were saying in the episode. They were just forbidden from having them say 'I love you".

BenRG:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 07 Jun 2016, 07:28 ---The point I am making is that Korra and Asami falling in love is not outside the work. It was a subtle sub-plot that had been running through the last two seasons. It is absolutely canon, there is no avoiding that. It's not an interpretation. People just don't want to accept it for a variety of reasons, mostly 'ew, gay'.
--- End quote ---

Given the history of shipping in the Avatar fandom, I think it is more likely that the problem was: "NOOO! She can't be with Asami, she's meant to be with [$Preferred_Partner]!" :-P

Avatards take their shipping seriously. So seriously that drawn out on-line wars have been fought and entire subsections of the fandom have issued dire demands to the creators to 'clarify' and 'correct' broadcast episodes. Yes, you read that right: They actually stated that the creators misinterpreted their own characters' relationships, as written by them and that they needed to redo whole episodes so that the 'right' ship appeared instead.

Neko_Ali:
Yes, a lot of Makkora shippers were quite upset that they didn't get together in the end. Despite the fact that ship left dock, immediately caught fire and quickly sank in the first two seasons. They were probably about half the anti-Korrasami crowd and you know.. I can see that. As unreasonable as I saw that ship, people are reluctant to give up their vision. The other half being the anti-gay or at least the status quo crowd. That they couldn't be together because they were girls, or because it wasn't beat over the audience's heads it must be overthinking.

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