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Ghostbusters, Frozen, and the strange entitlement of fan culture
Neko_Ali:
Was there any fanship between Lois Lane and Lana Lang? I thought it was pretty much just competition over Superman. If you wanted comics, there was certainly the whole Batman and Robin thing. Which was certainly supported by a bunch of scenes, even if the writers insisted they were innocent and there was nothing going on between them. Eventually they had to insert more female characters to split them apart and go 'See, they're not gay!"
SubaruStephen:
--- Quote from: Akima on 30 Jun 2016, 16:06 ---*I declare my interests: Han shot first.
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*pedantic rant about that phrase *
I know what everyone means when they say that, but it still irks me that Han shooting first implies that Greedo ever got a shot off in the first place. He never pulled the trigger, Han (rightly) never gave him a chance to, since not even the worst shot in the bright centered Galaxy could possibly miss from that far away.
Neko_Ali:
Technically, the phrase is still correct. Just not in a numerical sense. At that point in the conversation, Han knew for sure that Greedo was planning on just killing him. So he shot first, before Greedo could go any further with the plan. It was a preemptive shot.
SubaruStephen:
True, we know that because most of us here have seen the original versions, but for the new people who have only seen the modified versions the phrase changes the conversation from "Why were the changes made in the first place?" to "Who was the faster gunman?" (because in the first "special edition" Greedo shoots way before Han, in the Blu-rays the scence was changed even more so Han and Greedo shoot almost at the same time)
Akima:
--- Quote from: SubaruStephen on 30 Jun 2016, 20:54 ---I know what everyone means when they say that, but it still irks me that Han shooting first implies that Greedo ever got a shot off in the first place.
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I mainly wrote "Han shot first" because that is normal way the meme is quoted, but does it really imply an order in which more than one shot was fired? Is it not a fairly standard construction to write: "Han Solo knew Greedo was there to kill him, so he shot him first"?
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 30 Jun 2016, 18:28 ---Was there any fanship between Lois Lane and Lana Lang? I thought it was pretty much just competition over Superman.
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Yes, and some fans shipped Lois with Superman, and others shipped Lana with Superman. At least, as I understand it. I'd be the first to admit that I hardly know anything about comics.
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