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Ghostbusters, Frozen, and the strange entitlement of fan culture
Tova:
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--- Quote from: SubaruStephen on 30 Jun 2016, 20:54 ---I know what everyone means when they say that, but it still irks me that Han shooting first implies that Greedo ever got a shot off in the first place.
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I mainly wrote "Han shot first" because that is normal way the meme is quoted, but does it really imply an order in which more than one shot was fired? Is it not a fairly standard construction to write: "Han Solo knew Greedo was there to kill him, so he shot him first"?
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I was going to say much the same thing, but Akima said it first. :-D
BenRG:
You will find a subsegment of a fandom that ships any character with any character no matter of utterly bizarre or improbable. This is one of the reasons I try to avoid going out of my comfort zone when reading fan-fiction; some of those places are... disturbing. Remember Rule 36.
Near Lurker:
--- Quote from: Jimor on 26 Jun 2016, 03:39 ---My pet theory is that a lot of the "alternate" stories of early Christianity that became essentially the Apocrypha make perfect sense when seen through the filter as fan fiction about the major story being spread throughout the region of Jesus and the Resurrection. Jesus hooking up with Mary Magdalene is the "first ship". And another fan-fiction trope of reforming the villain explains the stories of Judas as hero. And of course, just like modern days, the curators of the original story had a vested interest in burying and discrediting non-canon versions of the story. :police:
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I remember reading somewhere that compared to what fragments we have that predate it, the standard version of the epic of Gilgamesh uses noticeably more intimate language to describe his relationship with Enkidu...
--- Quote from: Akima on 01 Jul 2016, 00:34 ---Yes, and some fans shipped Lois with Superman, and others shipped Lana with Superman. At least, as I understand it. I'd be the first to admit that I hardly know anything about comics.
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The difference is, that's sort of canon, whereas Kirk/Spock (unless you ask Theodore Sturgeon) isn't. What's more, I'm led to understand that "slash fic" was originally the ultraspecific subgenre concerned with the relationship between those two, the same way "fuku fic" meant Ranma joining the Sailor Scouts.
Neko_Ali:
Right, Superman's relationships with Lois and Lana were not in the realm of shipping. He was romantically involved in the comics with both of them. It was sadly a defining characteristic when they first were created, they were Supes' love interests. Sometimes ships to turn out to be accurate though. Or a relationship started in canon because of popular ships.
Method of Madness:
Regarding Blade Runner, you could answer the Deckard question with "human in the theatrical, replicant in the director's cut"*. I don't see any contradiction there, because they are two different movies. Yes, they are mostly similar, and they have the same title, but that doesn't make them the same movie.
*Or you could still have different interpretations of either cut, that's not the point
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