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TheEvilDog:

--- Quote from: Akima on 28 Oct 2016, 17:09 ---
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 28 Oct 2016, 06:20 ---LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.

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They're not exactly inexpensive though. A couple of months ago, I got a quote to replace the ceiling track-lights in my kitchen with compatible LED spots, and the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself). There were cheaper units, but they would have required me to remove the track, get in an electrician to rewire, and make good the ceiling, so the overall cost would have been much higher.

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Yes, but I imagine what you save over time offsets the cost of getting the LEDs.

pwhodges:

--- Quote from: Akima on 28 Oct 2016, 17:09 ---the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself).
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That seems a lot; I've paid about twice that to replace all the lights in the house, including fittings where necessary.


--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 28 Oct 2016, 21:41 ---Yes, but I imagine what you save over time offsets the cost of getting the LEDs.

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When I replaced the lighting in our most-used room, the consumption fell from 600W to 48W.  Next time we sent in a meter reading, the electricity company queried it.

Mr. Skawronska:

--- Quote from: Akima on 28 Oct 2016, 17:09 ---
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 28 Oct 2016, 06:20 ---LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.

--- End quote ---
They're not exactly inexpensive though. A couple of months ago, I got a quote to replace the ceiling track-lights in my kitchen with compatible LED spots, and the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself). There were cheaper units, but they would have required me to remove the track, get in an electrician to rewire, and make good the ceiling, so the overall cost would have been much higher.

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Now add a 70-year-old house and 50-plus-year-old cantankerous owner who likes things as they were to the mix, and you have my dilemma.

However, to be fair, LED technology has come a long way in the last decade.  I am SLOWLY changing.  Why, I just upgraded to a push button phone!  I'm so progressive!

Storel:

--- Quote from: Mr. Skawronska on 30 Oct 2016, 18:20 ---
--- Quote from: Akima on 28 Oct 2016, 17:09 ---
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 28 Oct 2016, 06:20 ---LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.

--- End quote ---
They're not exactly inexpensive though. A couple of months ago, I got a quote to replace the ceiling track-lights in my kitchen with compatible LED spots, and the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself). There were cheaper units, but they would have required me to remove the track, get in an electrician to rewire, and make good the ceiling, so the overall cost would have been much higher.

--- End quote ---

Now add a 70-year-old house and 50-plus-year-old cantankerous owner who likes things as they were to the mix, and you have my dilemma.

However, to be fair, LED technology has come a long way in the last decade.  I am SLOWLY changing.  Why, I just upgraded to a push button phone!  I'm so progressive!

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I can relate. My house (which I inherited from my late parents) is about 90 years old, and sometime back in the Nineties my father had most of the overhead light fixtures replaced with flourescent lights (the old-fashioned kind with 4-foot long tubes), presumably to save electricity. Unfortunately, they don't really save much; each of those 4-foot tubes uses about 40 watts, and all the light fixtures have at least 2, sometimes 4 tubes in them. Ironically, now if I want to use bulbs that save much more electricity like CFLs or LEDs, I'll have to hire an electrician first to remove the fluorescent fixtures and reinstall standard fixtures. *sigh*

JimC:
The ironic thing about energy efficient light bulbs is that, if you are in a building with thermostat controlled heating, then as soon as the heating is on all the energy saved from incandescent bulbs goes straight on the heating bill, since that energy doesn't go into thin air, but is simply dissipated as heat. So energy savings are rather less than the  headline values would have you believe. On the other hand, if you have airconditioning, the incandescent light heat goes straight onto the cooling bill, so in that case the savings are probably greater than headline cost.

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