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WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)

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anahata:

--- Quote from: Storel on 31 Oct 2016, 02:08 ---Ironically, now if I want to use bulbs that save much more electricity like CFLs or LEDs, I'll have to hire an electrician first to remove the fluorescent fixtures and reinstall standard fixtures. *sigh*

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I got compatible LED replacements* for a roomful of 4ft and 5ft fluorescent tubes - no rewiring needed!
(you can optionally short out the ballast if you're VERY SURE that nobody will ever put a real fluorescent tube back)

*Chinese made, "Emprex" brand. I expect they aren't the only ones

Gyrre:

--- Quote from: Thrudd on 28 Oct 2016, 06:20 ---
--- Quote from: Welu on 27 Oct 2016, 19:46 ---I like the detail that Bubbles' idea bulb is a modern energy saving kind.

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Uhm, those things were so last year and then some.
Heck they were out of date when they were pushed on the mass market as energy saving, which overall they are not if you include their production.
Also they are a major environmental hazard due to toxic phosphors, mercury and the high levels of UV emitted by the cheaper ones. Also they tend to burst into flame at the most inopportune times.

LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.
I replaced all the bathroom bulbs last week [kinda broke one and couldn't find a replacement] and boy am I glad I have a high quality dimmer on that light fixture.
Room went for something out of a Bogart film to a clean room inspection suite.
Now I have to repaint the walls or go with wallpaper because you now you can see every [censored] flaw and blemish..... on the walls dammit.
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Climate alarmism seems to have had the opposite effect as the environmentalism movement would have wanted. But that's what tends to happen when movements get hijacked by industrialists (see "carbon credits scandal(s)")

Thrudd:

--- Quote from: Storel on 31 Oct 2016, 02:08 ---I can relate. My house (which I inherited from my late parents) is about 90 years old, and sometime back in the Nineties my father had most of the overhead light fixtures replaced with flourescent lights (the old-fashioned kind with 4-foot long tubes), presumably to save electricity. Unfortunately, they don't really save much; each of those 4-foot tubes uses about 40 watts, and all the light fixtures have at least 2, sometimes 4 tubes in them. Ironically, now if I want to use bulbs that save much more electricity like CFLs or LEDs, I'll have to hire an electrician first to remove the fluorescent fixtures and reinstall standard fixtures. *sigh*

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All hope is not lost - One of my brothers-in-law works with light message systems and one of the products he installs is an LED replacement for the tubes that keeps the fixtures but pulls out the ballast and original mounts. He usually only puts in two for the old 4 lamp fixtures because they are so dang bright. For domestic installations the better dimmers are compatible as well so you can save even more on operating costs while limiting the electrical headaches.

Storel:

--- Quote from: anahata on 31 Oct 2016, 06:31 ---I got compatible LED replacements* for a roomful of 4ft and 5ft fluorescent tubes - no rewiring needed!
(you can optionally short out the ballast if you're VERY SURE that nobody will ever put a real fluorescent tube back)

*Chinese made, "Emprex" brand. I expect they aren't the only ones

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--- Quote from: Thrudd on 31 Oct 2016, 18:34 ---All hope is not lost - One of my brothers-in-law works with light message systems and one of the products he installs is an LED replacement for the tubes that keeps the fixtures but pulls out the ballast and original mounts. He usually only puts in two for the old 4 lamp fixtures because they are so dang bright. For domestic installations the better dimmers are compatible as well so you can save even more on operating costs while limiting the electrical headaches.

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Sweet! It never occurred to me that there might be LED replacements for the old fluorescent tubes. Thank you both!

Given how expensive an ordinary LED light-bulb is, I shudder to think how much these will cost. But the cost of LED bulbs seems to be coming down, so if I wait a bit hopefully they'll be more affordable.

Morituri:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 24 Oct 2016, 22:31 ---Claire didn't need to explain what gender dysphoria is.

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Erf?  Why is "gender dysphoria" any harder to parse than "green wallpaper"?  One adjective, one noun, both used in their canonical senses. Well, okay, 'gender' is tecnically a noun, but all nouns can be adjectivized, or we'd have a 'female candidate' instead of a 'woman candidate' standing for the presidency.  I've always admired people for NOT using a euphemism or codephrase for that issue.  For once they're content just saying exactly what it is and leaving it at that. Someone is unhappy about gender.  Period.  It's both true, and (unless it's the specific topic of that conversation) it's all that needs to be said.

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