Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - November 2016
Tova:
--- Quote from: brasca on 27 Nov 2016, 05:34 ---If it were anyone else it would be hopeless, but this is Alice so there is a better than average chance. I can understand keeping her wits as well as those around her, but Gavia is deeply shaken by all this and not hysterical. Telling her to shut up seems needlessly mean.
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I can't comprehend why you're empathising with Gavia's trauma but not with Alice being a bit tense in this extraordinary situation. Yes, she is better than average, which is the only reason she hasn't completely lost it as well. Yet you want her to be perfect. Cut her a bit of slack.
This is still an unprecedented situation for all concerned. Alice may not be baseline, but she's still human. People have died, people are being threatened, and you're fussing over niceties.
Gavia will cope with being told to shut up, I am sure.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 27 Nov 2016, 12:24 ---I think Pate is going to be in for a few surprises if and/or when he gets into Orbit
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I'm not sure that they'll get as far as orbit. I wonder if just what they find in the bunker may be a bit too much for Alice and Church to chew, even fighting together.
"Well, shit! Who would have ever guessed one of these would have survived the Blink?" ((Giant Godzilla-sized mecha rises up into the sky, multiple laser batteries tracking to find targets))
brasca:
--- Quote from: retrosteve on 27 Nov 2016, 08:33 ---
--- Quote from: brasca on 27 Nov 2016, 05:34 ---If it were anyone else it would be hopeless, but this is Alice so there is a better than average chance. I can understand keeping her wits as well as those around her, but Gavia is deeply shaken by all this and not hysterical. Telling her to shut up seems needlessly mean.
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To me it seems absolutely necessary. Alice's one remaining advantage is that Pate doesn't know all of her plans. When Gavia begins "...we can't let him" that's likely to be the beginning of Gavia blurting out information on their plans, and Alice really doesn't want to lose another advantage just then.
The fact that Pate seems well aware of their plans doesn't emerge for another few moments.
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Pate seems to know just about everything at this point including Ardent's abilities. The only thing he doesn't (unless Alice's cottage was bugged) is that Ardent might subconsciously influence what he upgrades which might come as a rude awakening if the computer on their upgraded spaceship flushes him and Church out the airlock. However, I doubt it would end so easily. Where Pate is literally in the dark about is space. He doesn't know what the habitats are like which is what he's likely to ask Ardent and/or Gavia next. It's easy enough to tell her to be quiet, but keep in mind Pate is calling the shots now and if he thinks they are lying he could kill another innocent person to show his displeasure. Who among us would want that on their conscience?
That being said Gavia may prove crucial if Pate thinks she's on his side. She wants to go home and may have similar philosophies regarding technology so he might consider her the least likely to resist. Moreover, she likes to learn new things and Pate seems like the type of villain who loves to bend people to his way of thinking and would be pleased to have an apprentice. As such she could lull him into a false sense of security and lead him into a trap once they arrive at the habitat or if Church is controlled by some code as some have theorized she might be able to get close enough to break Pate's control over him.
Method of Madness:
As awful as Pate is...is he worse than the Praeses?
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: brasca on 27 Nov 2016, 05:34 ---If it were anyone else it would be hopeless, but this is Alice so there is a better than average chance.
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She's got Sedna, who is pretty much equivalent to her, damaged right next to her; she can't just assume she can handle this as easily as usual.
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