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AI and law.

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themacnut:

--- Quote from: Morituri on 03 Dec 2016, 16:47 ---95% of the neural networks in play today are either figuring out how to maximize ad profits or identifying and executing stock trades.  People like money and that's where the effort is mostly focused.
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Which I why I think the first "true" AI is going to be some kind of "businessmind" that maximizes profits for the corporation running its server farms. It'll end up doing a better job than most, if any upper management teams have ever done, and upper management of that corporation will end up following its suggestions simply because not following them is likely to produce less than optimal results.


--- Quote from: WareWolf on 07 Dec 2016, 11:22 ---
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 07 Dec 2016, 09:53 ---
There are separate facilities in dealing with AI criminals though. Most likely because of the physical differences between the groups. Robot jail for instance doesn't have to worry about cells, exercise yards, rehabilitation facilities or the same sort of infrastructure. By the sounds of it they put the AI's personality cores into server racks and limit their exposure to the outside while trying to rehabilitate.

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For an idea of just how horrific this could become, see "Altered Carbon" by Richard K. Morgan.

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Not like prison is supposed to be pleasant, that's supposed to be part of its deterrent effect. Still there should be rules about how badly convicted prisoners can be treated for a truly civil society.

JimC:

--- Quote from: themacnut on 07 Dec 2016, 14:53 ---Not like prison is supposed to be pleasant, that's supposed to be part of its deterrent effect. Still there should be rules about how badly convicted prisoners can be treated for a truly civil society.
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Well that's where the whole prison thing is messed up. In a single institution we are expecting to get rehabilitation, deterrence and removal from society of those who would damage others. Trying to mix all those up in a single institution is inherently doomed to failure.

The real John Smith:
I see a lot of comparison between developing AI and raising children but I don't see the parallel outside of designer babies.
Mabe when choosing the genes of the child and how it will grow up the parents use a random number generator and if the combination is unfortunate than the parents act like they didn't do anything incredibly irresponsible.
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pwhodges:
That reads as if you think that Jeph's AIs are deterministic at an understandable level, and thus fully programmable.  It seems to me that Jeph writes them to have complexity beyond individual understanding, thus making them appear to have free will, just like humans (who after all inhabit the same superficially, but not actually, deterministic universe) - hence the parallels in the comic and in the discussion.

Is it cold in here?:
Clarence Darrow used to argue that it was unfair to punish people for acting deterministicly.

His logic fails if you consider that behavior totally controlled by the environment can change if the environment includes the threat of punishment.

Agreeing with everyone who says it looks like QC synthetics are integrated into the legal system on the same terms as squishies.

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