Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - December 2016
Tova:
I suspect that neither Alice nor Gavia would be too keen in testing those limitations in that way, though. Not without knowing, at least.
brasca:
I'm still curious about what control Pate has over Church. We've never seen him give an order so he may have some kind of telepathic control over Church. Consider what just happened when Alice went to kill Pate. Church grabbed her arm, but didn't crush it like he did Sedna's shoulder. Even if Pate would intricately explained every single detail of his plans to Church to prevent a misunderstanding this would still make improvising impossible when things don't go accordingly. I think Pate can see and act through Church and signaled him to stop her without breaking an arm that she'll need to dig out the bunker. There is the matter of sleep which he claims Church doesn't do, but if that's the case then what happens when Pate sleeps? Does Church become semi-autonomous and only if there is a disturbance telepathically wakes his master? Then again maybe Pate doesn't sleep and is more than just a baseline human.
On a somewhat related note if any of you have a subscription to Tumblr and follow Jeph Jacques you should check out Roko unwinds. When I first saw it I thought it was bonus Alice Grove strip until I read it. And why would I make that mistake? Because in a black and white sketch Roko resembles Alice which makes me think that she is the AI that will eventually evolve into Alice, not Bubbles.
retrosteve:
--- Quote from: brasca on 04 Dec 2016, 04:44 ---I'm still curious about what control Pate has over Church.
--- End quote ---
Maybe none. Maybe he just pays Church's salary, and they talk a lot, so Church knows what Pate needs.
Pate is, as we've already seen, good at aligning his interests (at least temporarily) with those of others. Possibly he and Church have aligned interests.
Tova:
One thing that does interest me is that Pate doesn't even blink at the lightning-fast attempt on his life. He allows himself the very slightest smile, like it was just what he was expecting. I think that most people, even knowing they are being protected, might have at least flinched.
Neko_Ali:
He's not only been expecting Alice's attack, he's been taunting it out, trying to force it. Pate is well aware of at least the general level of Alice's capabilities and believes that Church can stop her. So he's been baiting her into attacking. Making threatening statements, issuing demands and taunting Alice, all while staying within easy reach of her. When she didn't take that, he turned his back on her giving Alice her best chance to attack, short of waiting until Pate was asleep.
He was trying to prompt that attack so Alice would know any kind of attempt on Pate would be stopped. He wanted to demonstrate his safety and demoralize Alice. She's more likely to grudgingly go along with Pate's commands in the short term and wait for a better opportunity now, instead of constantly be trying to undermine him.
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