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Alice Grove MCDLT - December 2016

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Samik:
We had something approximately like a singularity event. In a relatively short span of time we went from the events precipitating the faction split, to the blink. It stands to reason that the super-soldiers would be iterated pretty rapidly towards the end.  We already know that Alice is somewhat improved from Sedna. Mr. Church seems to be an even larger leap from Alice (and she knew it). It is probably wise to assume that his offensive output dwarfs the tech level Alice is designed to hold up to.

Additionally, I'll predict that his intelligence is far higher also - that he's not under Pate's control at all, but that they have some sort of agreement. Or even that it's the other way around  and Pate is Church's puppet. (I just noticed, panel 3 of this page.)



I don't think he's meant to have legitimate teleportation - just speed that's darned near to it. There's a bit of a blur effect in panel three (and the bottom text can possibly be considered evidence also).

Samik:
Now that I'm thinking about this puppet idea, I notice something.

So obviously Church's go-to move is the classic sneak up from behind while you're distracted. But, I don't think it's just a comedic gimmick. I think the author is employing it deliberately, and it tells us something about the character.

Pate is Church's pocket distraction. Three of the four sneak-up moves we've seen so far occur when the target is focused on Pate (the fourth being Sedna examining the carriage). Everyone assumes Pate is the brain behind the operation and so deals with him directly, while Church stands back and surveys the field.

And to the point of him being hyper-aware, so how did Ellie get the drop on him with the pipe? She didn't: She was absolutely no threat to him, he simply had no reason at all to avoid her attack. Sedna was the only relevant target for him in that scene.  (Once he verified her disabled, then he had his fun.)

In the same vein, he also had no reason to prevent Sedna from damaging the carriage. He hardly needs it for transportation. And all the assets he needs to execute his plan are already present.

Samik:

--- Quote from: pwhodges on 04 Dec 2016, 00:52 ---Even Church must have limitations, otherwise there would be no story to tell.

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I know it won't happen. But, I would be very lit-geeked if it turns out that Church is the main, or most important, character.


The way things went down before the blink never sat right with him. He's been meaning to have a word with the Praeses. And now, thanks to Ardent's payload, his long years of patience are about to pay off.

This summer, one man takes his vendetta to the stars.

Ron Perlman is

CHURCH

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FunkyTuba:

--- Quote from: brasca on 04 Dec 2016, 04:44 ---When I first saw it I thought it was bonus Alice Grove strip until I read it.  And why would I make that mistake?  Because in a black and white sketch Roko resembles Alice which makes me think that she is the AI that will eventually evolve into Alice, not Bubbles.

--- End quote ---

+1 insightful

jheartney:
I  had a completely opposite hypothesis about Church: what if he's not really a separate being? What if he's a telepathic projection of Pate's? That would explain the instantaneous motion, and the lack of any need for communication. it would also explain his being indestructible.

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