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Alice Grove MCDLT - December 2016

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Is it cold in here?:
Just how far would Alice be knocked backward by Newton's laws?

Could she even get the swing going in the first place? If her arm is going down with enough momentum to have that effect then the rest of her is moving upward with the same amount of momentum.

A running start on a vertical wall would make more sense.

Whatever's inside the bunker may be damaged by now.

Neko_Ali:
Physics go right out the window when dealing with super humans like we are seeing here. So I wouldn't worry to much about what is logically possible. That leads to rather boring stories. There is nothing about Alice, Sedna or Church that would work with the knowledge we have of matter, energy and physics. The same goes to a lesser degree with the kids' nanobots. At the very least they should be consuming massive amounts of food to take in the materials and energy they need to keep their nanos running, or get energy from some outside source. Gavia more than Ardent before she lost her nanos because she used them constantly.

Or to put it in the words of (the slightly altered) MST3K: "If you're wondering how they eat and breath And other science facts, Just repeat to yourself "It's just a comic, I should really just relax."

FunkyTuba:
Follow me here...

While obviously higher-level/more enhanced than they are, Pate described Church as being "one of [Alice and Sedna's]" kind. That would imply to me that Church does have his limits. He could probably move fast enough to stop a bullet. What about simultaneous bullets? While Sedna and Alice both attack at once? I'm curious to see what Church would do about that, possibly his programming/orientation/directive would pick up Pate and bug out beyond range of danger.

Thrudd:
Stepping back a bit, I have to ask - why is everyone assuming Pate is baseline?
As far as I have seen there is nothing pointing either yay or nay.
Even if a sociopath he either has 100% trust in churches abilities (doubtful) or knows that he was in no personal danger in the first place.
If he was then there would be a #3) Pate was Churches commander before the blink.
Officer types don't need the firepower of front line combat units, just the survival ability and much better strategic and tactical skills.
As for the counter question, but Alice didn't recognize him as a Church level threat. Maybe she didn't have much, if any interaction with the officer types, or they are very difficult to differentiate from baseline except under extreme circumstances like being shot in the face at point blank. (man that would sting)

Neko_Ali:
There is no reason to assume Pate is anything other than a baseline human though, either. Sociopathy and megalomania also tend to come with a supreme level of (over)confidence.  He clearly trusts that Church can take care of any threat that Alice and Sedna can pose. And he has not shown any signs of being anything other than just a smart human. The only knowledge he's shown outside the normal is about the existence of the Prases and the space colonies. And that's something he could have found out through Church or other sources.

So basically, there's no reason to assume he's anything other than human because we've seen no signs of it. There's no reason to assume he's not super human, and just hasn't shown any abilities yet either.

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