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Alice Grove MCDLT - December 2016

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brasca:

--- Quote from: Thrudd on 12 Dec 2016, 21:38 ---Stepping back a bit, I have to ask - why is everyone assuming Pate is baseline?
As far as I have seen there is nothing pointing either yay or nay.
Even if a sociopath he either has 100% trust in churches abilities (doubtful) or knows that he was in no personal danger in the first place.
If he was then there would be a #3) Pate was Churches commander before the blink.
Officer types don't need the firepower of front line combat units, just the survival ability and much better strategic and tactical skills.
As for the counter question, but Alice didn't recognize him as a Church level threat. Maybe she didn't have much, if any interaction with the officer types, or they are very difficult to differentiate from baseline except under extreme circumstances like being shot in the face at point blank. (man that would sting)

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There is a possibility, but it's just that until proven otherwise.  I've theorized that he might be originally from the space colonies and was either exiled, marooned, or left of his own free will and set up operations in that city he controls, but if that's the case that only makes him as special as Ardent or Gavia and could still be easily killed by one of the immortals.  He could also be an immortal that Alice and Sedna never met that might even be more powerful than Church, but chooses to let his underlings do all of the work.  If so he may have plotting a very long time to leave Earth and now he has the key. 

retrosteve:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 12 Dec 2016, 09:05 ---Or to put it in the words of (the slightly altered) MST3K: "If you're wondering how they eat and breath And other science facts, Just repeat to yourself "It's just a comic, I should really just relax."

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I should really just relax, but I have a pedantic need to correct your "breath" (a noun, rhymes with death) to "breathe", (a verb, rhymes with "seethe"). Joel and the bots would point at me and laugh.

More seriously, I think it's important to keep some level of technology-believability in the explanations, since without it there's no point in even speculating about the story. Even a good Fantasy universe has laws of physics, and a SF universe even more so. If Jeph breaks them, I will choose to believe (until proven otherwise) that he's got a science or at least attempted science explanation.

retrosteve:

--- Quote from: Thrudd on 12 Dec 2016, 21:38 ---Pate was Churches commander before the blink.
Officer types don't need the firepower of front line combat units, just the survival ability and much better strategic and tactical skills.
As for the counter question, but Alice didn't recognize him as a Church level threat. Maybe she didn't have much, if any interaction with the officer types, or they are very difficult to differentiate from baseline except under extreme circumstances

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The combat units are still organic (at least in brain, since they are not AIs) so there may be no way at all to recognize them until you see how they act or move. Church gave himself away early by suddenly appearing behind Alice when he had been nowhere nearby a fraction of a second ago.

JimC:

--- Quote from: Thrudd on 12 Dec 2016, 21:38 ---Stepping back a bit, I have to ask - why is everyone assuming Pate is baseline?
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--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 13 Dec 2016, 03:46 ---There is no reason to assume Pate is anything other than a baseline human though, either.
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Sure, but isn't amusing ourselves with probably-shortly-to-be-outdated speculation much of what forums like this are for? I quite like the super warrior officer idea, although I should have thought in practice a less nerdy look would be advantageous, if only for interacting with humans.

Tova:

--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 12 Dec 2016, 01:39 ---I like the lack of a 'BAM', indicating the casual apathy of the action.

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There is actually a large BAM in light yellow behind the scene.

BAM

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