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WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
TinPenguin:
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--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 27 Feb 2017, 19:09 ---I think I'm...I'm a little bit disappointed in Hanners tonight.... :-\
All she's probably heard about Roko comes from Faye and Bubbles, so its probably a one-sided picture, but still Hanners could have given Roko the benefit of the doubt, especially considering she's just let her friends slide on several crimes.
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Honestly, I don't disagree with Hannelore's behavior on this one. Maybe she was just trying to make conversation, but there are many instances of cops having a 'casual conversation' actually looking for information. And multiple instances have shown that talking to a cop, even if you've done nothing wrong, is always a risk.
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I recall there was a heated debate when Roko first appeared about the 'Don't Talk to Cops' thing, with which I generally disagreed, not living in a police state, but in this situation even I would be wary of volunteering more information than necessary, especially about someone else.
Tawdry Quirks:
--- Quote from: Storel on 27 Feb 2017, 22:59 ---
--- Quote from: Tova on 27 Feb 2017, 22:07 ---I'm running with theory that her olfactory sensors can detect anything humans and other AIs can, and quite possibly a few things on top of that, because why the heck would it not?
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Cost. The more sensitive the olfactory sensors, the more expensive they'll be. If the police department pays for olfactory upgrades, they can probably get a decent discount for quantity, but if Roko had to pay for it herself on a cop's salary...
Besides, the evidence suggests that her olfactory sensors are not as refined as Bubbles's, given the somewhat cruder image she saw. :wink:
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It's also possible that Hanners might have deliberately chosen a tea varietal that leans more 'anthro-unicorn in banana hammock' than 'pastoral unicorn', to elicit embarrassment from Roko. Or it might reflect more of a psychological difference between Roko and Bubbles. I'm not rejecting the possibility you mentioned, because I'm also mulling over that hypothesis.
mercykills:
--- Quote from: oddtail on 28 Feb 2017, 00:48 ---I don't have a problem with Hannelore being cautious. Or smart. I didn't mind how she reacted the last comic. But this one?
Come on. It's not about her being smart of cautious. There are a million ways to say "I don't want to talk about this" in a polite manner. And I get Hannelore's reaction. I do. She doesn't have a good reason to trust Roko or even to like her. She's under no obligation to be polite or nice to her.
But I'm sorry, cutting someone off mid-sentence (when they're trying to backpedal and explain what they meant, no less!) and Hannelore's icy cold stare? That's not about not talking to the police, because it might be a bad idea. It's about not talking to Roko because Hannelore doesn't like talking to her. She's being cold, unpleasant and borderline rude.
I can't guess the motivation behind everyone's posts in this forum, but I can't help but wonder if past experience with the police isn't informing at least some people's attitude towards Roko as a character. While by no means universal, the general attitude towards police in this forum tends to be, on average, extremely hostile. Does that inform people's opinion on this particular comic? Maybe not. But I think it just might.
Again, I don't think Hannelore is a terrible human being for reacting the way she does, or anything like that. But I don't see the way she handled the situation as necessary. Or reasonable. Or nice. Roko may be a police officer, but she's still a person.
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Yea...but Hanners didn't start acting this way because she saw a cop in uniform, obviously. She started the "low power" routine when a cop asked about a friend who she KNOWS has had, in the past, and could possibly have, in the future, trouble with the law. So, no, completely shutting down conversation is NOT out of the question, here.
And to the assertion that those of us who hold such views have mostly had poor interactions with LEO's in the past, I can safely disabuse you of such notions. In fact, not saying any names, but I know of one person here who holds such views who'll be starting academy training very soon. As to that particular person's true reason, for having the views they have on the subject. Well, let's just say they've grown tired of the hypocrisy that permeates their own country(*America*) on this matter:
"Ok, everyone, remember, You don't have to speak to the police and, of course, have the right to an attorney. :) But if you ever use this right, you're a disgusting person and we WILL all condemn you for invoking it!!! >:-< "
>.>
PS:Sorry, for the disarray of this comment but I'm in a rush.
oddtail:
I didn't say shutting down the conversation was out of the question. I'm not even saying Hannelore was under an obligation to act differently than she did. Heck, I acknowledged that fairly explicitly, I think.
I'm saying she was being impolite and cold. It's her right, but it doesn't mean - as some people have asserted - she needed to do that because it's smart and prudent. She decided to be a bit rude. It was not a necessary component of deciding not to talk to Roko.
And I never said anything I think of as condemning anyone. I went out of my way to say I understand why Hannelore acted the way she did. I am not sure how that is "condemning" anyone or anything (yes, I know you never directly said I did that, but you mentioned a general attitude in the context of my post. So... I feel you're kinda-sorta implying that).
All I can say is, if someone acted towards me like this, I'd feel bad. Roko did nothing to be treated this way. It's understandable, if unfortunate, why she was treated like that, and it's a direct result of her acting kind of stupid. But I can very well not like the way she was treated withOUT unreservedly condemning Hannelore's behaviour or even her as a person.
I feel like you're kinda inferring, from what I wrote, things I never said or implied, and I'm not exactly sure why.
94ssd:
--- Quote from: oddtail on 28 Feb 2017, 00:48 ---But I'm sorry, cutting someone off mid-sentence (when they're trying to backpedal and explain what they meant, no less!) and Hannelore's icy cold stare? That's not about not talking to the police, because it might be a bad idea. It's about not talking to Roko because Hannelore doesn't like talking to her. She's being cold, unpleasant and borderline rude.
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No, she's doing the only thing that guarantees a quick exit to this conversation. There are real-life incidents where cops have literally interpreted friendliness as being suspicious. Not responding to unwanted lines of questioning and being stern, those are intelligent responses.
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