Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
oddtail:
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--- Quote from: oddtail on 28 Feb 2017, 00:48 ---But I'm sorry, cutting someone off mid-sentence (when they're trying to backpedal and explain what they meant, no less!) and Hannelore's icy cold stare? That's not about not talking to the police, because it might be a bad idea. It's about not talking to Roko because Hannelore doesn't like talking to her. She's being cold, unpleasant and borderline rude.
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No, she's doing the only thing that guarantees a quick exit to this conversation. There are real-life incidents where cops have literally interpreted friendliness as being suspicious. Not responding to unwanted lines of questioning and being stern, those are intelligent responses.
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I'm not expecting her to be chatty. But, off the top of my head "I'm sorry officer, let me stop you there. I don't want to talk about this topic. You don't need to explain yourself to me. Here's your tea, and have a nice day" could not possibly have been misinterpreted as wanting to continue the conversation. It would have achieved the same effect. And once more, I repeat - Hannelore is not *obligated* to respond like this, or similarly. But I'm kinda bummed that she didn't.
Thrudd:
--- Quote from: oddtail on 28 Feb 2017, 05:20 ---
--- Quote from: 94ssd on 28 Feb 2017, 05:11 ---
--- Quote from: oddtail on 28 Feb 2017, 00:48 ---But I'm sorry, cutting someone off mid-sentence (when they're trying to backpedal and explain what they meant, no less!) and Hannelore's icy cold stare? That's not about not talking to the police, because it might be a bad idea. It's about not talking to Roko because Hannelore doesn't like talking to her. She's being cold, unpleasant and borderline rude.
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No, she's doing the only thing that guarantees a quick exit to this conversation. There are real-life incidents where cops have literally interpreted friendliness as being suspicious. Not responding to unwanted lines of questioning and being stern, those are intelligent responses.
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I'm not expecting her to be chatty. But, off the top of my head "I'm sorry officer, let me stop you there. I don't want to talk about this topic. You don't need to explain yourself to me. Here's your tea, and have a nice day" could not possibly have been misinterpreted as wanting to continue the conversation. It would have achieved the same effect. And once more, I repeat - Hannelore is not *obligated* to respond like this, or similarly. But I'm kinda bummed that she didn't.
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If it was any other venue, a different country and an average person then I would hesitantly agree with you on that point.
But we are talking about Hannelore who is still working on her social interaction skills, Coffee of Doom which still has snark as a part of its customer service model and lastly the USofA where LEOs have earned a reputation that is spiraling to that of Burma.
oddtail:
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 28 Feb 2017, 06:05 ---
--- Quote from: oddtail on 28 Feb 2017, 05:20 ---
--- Quote from: 94ssd on 28 Feb 2017, 05:11 ---
--- Quote from: oddtail on 28 Feb 2017, 00:48 ---But I'm sorry, cutting someone off mid-sentence (when they're trying to backpedal and explain what they meant, no less!) and Hannelore's icy cold stare? That's not about not talking to the police, because it might be a bad idea. It's about not talking to Roko because Hannelore doesn't like talking to her. She's being cold, unpleasant and borderline rude.
--- End quote ---
No, she's doing the only thing that guarantees a quick exit to this conversation. There are real-life incidents where cops have literally interpreted friendliness as being suspicious. Not responding to unwanted lines of questioning and being stern, those are intelligent responses.
--- End quote ---
I'm not expecting her to be chatty. But, off the top of my head "I'm sorry officer, let me stop you there. I don't want to talk about this topic. You don't need to explain yourself to me. Here's your tea, and have a nice day" could not possibly have been misinterpreted as wanting to continue the conversation. It would have achieved the same effect. And once more, I repeat - Hannelore is not *obligated* to respond like this, or similarly. But I'm kinda bummed that she didn't.
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If it was any other venue, a different country and an average person then I would hesitantly agree with you on that point.
But we are talking about Hannelore who is still working on her social interaction skills, Coffee of Doom which still has snark as a part of its customer service model and lastly the USofA where LEOs have earned a reputation that is spiraling to that of Burma.
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Somewhat off-topic, but when the expected response to interaction from anyone who knows what's best of them is like this, I am not sure what person, if they genuinely care about people they're supposed to protect, would want to become a police officer at all. Granted, I would make a very poor policeman in any country, but if I became one for some strange reason, and people acted this way towards me even half of the time I was in uniform, I'd quit my job in like a month. And I'm not even that used to people treating me with any real amount of friendliness and respect.
Seems to me, even if it's not the fault of people who refuse to talk to the police, per se, this kinda creates a Catch-22 situation where working in law enforcement would turn off reasonable, friendly people, leaving only the... less desirable picks to do the job. I imagine hostility (or what can be perceived as hostility) from random people would hit a "I genuinely want to help people" person much harder than it would a "I'm here to catch criminals" person.
mercykills:
--- Quote from: oddtail on 28 Feb 2017, 00:48 ---I don't have a problem with Hannelore being cautious. Or smart. I didn't mind how she reacted the last comic. But this one?
Come on. It's not about her being smart of cautious. There are a million ways to say "I don't want to talk about this" in a polite manner. And I get Hannelore's reaction. I do. She doesn't have a good reason to trust Roko or even to like her. She's under no obligation to be polite or nice to her.
But I'm sorry, cutting someone off mid-sentence (when they're trying to backpedal and explain what they meant, no less!) and Hannelore's icy cold stare? That's not about not talking to the police, because it might be a bad idea. It's about not talking to Roko because Hannelore doesn't like talking to her. She's being cold, unpleasant and borderline rude.
I can't guess the motivation behind everyone's posts in this forum, but I can't help but wonder if past experience with the police isn't informing at least some people's attitude towards Roko as a character. While by no means universal, the general attitude towards police in this forum tends to be, on average, extremely hostile. Does that inform people's opinion on this particular comic? Maybe not. But I think it just might.
Again, I don't think Hannelore is a terrible human being for reacting the way she does, or anything like that. But I don't see the way she handled the situation as necessary. Or reasonable. Or nice. Roko may be a police officer, but she's still a person.
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Ugh...let my foolishness be a lesson to all about speaking on a subject so serious when you know you don't have the time to properly speak your message in the tone you wish to convey. Bah. Apologies, mate.
First off, that last line was an example of how I've seen the conversation in my country go when it comes to discussing people who don't wish to speak to the cops. It absolutely was not saying YOU were condemning those with a different point of view from you. Secondly, overall, I did understand that what you ultimately had an issue with was HOW Hannelor chose to shut the conversation down. And that's where we really disagree'd with each other.
So, on that, I would probably just say, remember who we're talking about here. For all her progress made, Hanners still has very severe anxiety and profound quirks. Who knows if she thinks of her reaction as anything other than efficient. I seriously doubt she thinks of this like you or I would view the situation.
And that's pretty much all, I really wanted to get at. And again, I really hope you'll forgive me for coming of like a complete d***. Wasn't my intention but after so long of being a citizen of the Internet...I should know better and try better.
Note: I wrote this in a semi-hurry(yep i know) on my tiny phone screen. lol :)
oddtail:
--- Quote from: mercykills on 28 Feb 2017, 07:00 ---So, on that, I would probably just say, remember who we're talking about here. For all her progress made, Hanners still has very severe anxiety and profound quirks. Who knows if she thinks of her reaction as anything other than efficient. I seriously doubt she thinks of this like you or I would view the situation.
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I absolutely agree. All things considered, she handled the situation rather well. That's why I voiced disappointment rather than irritation or anger. I still think she didn't react perfectly, but it's not she ran away or otherwise freaked out, or punched Roko in the face, or insulted her, or did anything genuinely awful.
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