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WCDT Strips 3461-3465 (17-21 April 2017)
Gyrre:
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--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 28 Apr 2017, 02:40 ---I suppose that taking 'human' experience, which I agree 'can' sit on both sides of the memory scale, and translating that to AI experience (which is fictional and differs for each iteration of universes they inhabit - but let's stick with this one.. :) ) then I can certainly concede that IF AI brains are a perfect mirror of human brains (and putting aside my belief that they can't/shouldn't be :-P ) then such traumatic amnesia is possible... for specific instances... but surely not seen as the 'norm'?
But... for such amnesia to wipe out ALL memories, of every day spent with said colleagues... well, I guess that's where the stubborn bugger side of me rises.
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Wasn't that the whole point of what Corpse Witch's "operation" was supposed to do to Bubbles's memories? IIRC correctly, Bubbles said that after the memories were edited she still had an overall "outline" of what happened, but all the details that were driving her crazy were gone. So now that the memories turn out to be permanently gone -- well, nothing has changed for Bubbles: she still has the "big picture", but none of the fine details. As I understand it, Bubbles didn't lose any memories accidentally, it was all because of what Corpse Witch did.
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Technically it was still accidental. Corpsewitch botched the process and deleted the memories instead of merely partitioning them.
Neko_Ali:
Well, that's what she said when faced with an angry Bubbles. It's possible that CW was never capable of portioning the memories, or for some reason deliberately deleted instead of locking them away. Then she told Bubbles they were locked away and could only be recovered if Bubbles served her.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: Storel on 28 Apr 2017, 20:32 ---
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 28 Apr 2017, 02:40 ---I suppose that taking 'human' experience, which I agree 'can' sit on both sides of the memory scale, and translating that to AI experience (which is fictional and differs for each iteration of universes they inhabit - but let's stick with this one.. :) ) then I can certainly concede that IF AI brains are a perfect mirror of human brains (and putting aside my belief that they can't/shouldn't be :-P ) then such traumatic amnesia is possible... for specific instances... but surely not seen as the 'norm'?
But... for such amnesia to wipe out ALL memories, of every day spent with said colleagues... well, I guess that's where the stubborn bugger side of me rises.
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Wasn't that the whole point of what Corpse Witch's "operation" was supposed to do to Bubbles's memories? IIRC correctly, Bubbles said that after the memories were edited she still had an overall "outline" of what happened, but all the details that were driving her crazy were gone. So now that the memories turn out to be permanently gone -- well, nothing has changed for Bubbles: she still has the "big picture", but none of the fine details. As I understand it, Bubbles didn't lose any memories accidentally, it was all because of what Corpse Witch did.
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Well, now we're back into the territory of "Bubbles memories are those of a machine which can be manipulated like files..."
Which I was being beaten over the head for daring to suggest further up the thread! :)
However... I can't say I ever thought that Bubbles' sequestered memories were of every single interaction she ever had with her squadmates?
Simply that one attack... which she described very well... while having no memory of it... which started this whoooole shebang!
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 30 Apr 2017, 15:46 ---Well, that's what she said when faced with an angry Bubbles. It's possible that CW was never capable of portioning the memories, or for some reason deliberately deleted instead of locking them away. Then she told Bubbles they were locked away and could only be recovered if Bubbles served her.
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Possibly.
But even Spookybot thought that CW was 'capable' of doing so...
Tova:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 29 Apr 2017, 08:04 ---There was a hint that Bubbles tried therapy and gave up. It's where she yelled at Faye for trying to help and said "Better minds than yours have tried". Maybe she's better prepared to make a go of it now.
As far as the scope of traumatic amnesia goes, it's not unheard of for a PTSD therapist to say something like "some of my clients have told me they don't remember anything from their childhood".
And it turns out I'm using the phrase "traumatic amnesia" wrong. I'm not sure what to Google for to find the phenomenon I'm describing.
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Maybe what you're thinking of is dissociative amnesia.
Of specific relevance to this discussion is the following extract (emphasis in italics is mine):
--- Quote ---In generalized amnesia, patients forget their identify and life history—eg, who they are, where they went, to whom they spoke, and what they did, said, thought, experienced, and felt. Some patients can no longer access well-learned skills and lose formerly known information about the world. Generalized dissociative amnesia is rare; it is more common among combat veterans, people who have been sexually assaulted, and people experiencing extreme stress or conflict. Onset is usually sudden.
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