Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - MAY 2017
Is it cold in here?:
It is the author's sovereign choice how to balance exposition and enigma.
That said, I am surfeited with enigma.
Tova:
My vote is for the insanity interpretation, for whatever that's worth.
Also, with regards to "controlling two immortals." Would I be right in suggesting that one far from a given, and the other is temporary unless she can maintain the blade while asleep.
brasca:
It's definitely dependent on Gavia holding Pate hostage, but the reason why Church answers to Pate is still a mystery. If Pate dug him out of the ground then he seems honor bound to obey him since there doesn't appear to be any other way for him to keep him in line. As such it's theoretical, but if saving the life of an immortal gives that person control over them Alice may still hate the situation no matter who it is. While I doubt Gavia holds a grudge and probably feels indebted for her saving her from the Nightwalker Alice was once a weapon controlled by others and for the last 5000 years shes been free so even if she's oblligated to follow a good person she still hates the loss of independence.
retrosteve:
--- Quote from: brasca on 13 May 2017, 23:48 ---if saving the life of an immortal gives that person control over them Alice may still hate the situation no matter who it is. While I doubt Gavia holds a grudge and probably feels indebted for her saving her from the Nightwalker...
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I really can't see stories of any kind built on artificial rules controlling sentient beings. Church shows sadism, anger, lust for revenge. He's sentient, not some sort of rule-based AI. He may or may not have a sense of honour. He doesn't have a robotic "I am controlled by whoever last saved my life" switch, any more than you do.
If I'm wrong, I'll be seriously disappointed in the story, for turning sentient creatures into automata, which would be awfully useful at times, but doesn't happen.
brasca:
Then how would you explain Pate's control over Church? If Church was just following him until he could satisfy his revenge then he wouldn't back down once he got it.
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