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Alice Grove MCDLT - MAY 2017

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sitnspin:
Honor? Gratitude? There are countless reasons why Church might follow and protect Pate. His desire for revenge doesn't have to have anything to do with it.

Method of Madness:
Also, I don't think Pate saved Church, it sounded like he dug himself out.

TheEvilDog:
We don't know that much about Alice, Sedna and Church other than the fact that they are remnant weapons of before the Blink.
We don't know why Church and Alice had a battle 5000 years ago or why she was forced to imprison him under molten rock.
We don't know the circumstances of Church's release or the cause of his attachment to Pate.

There's a lot we don't know and thus every theory about their origin is left open until outright proven wrong.
It might not be a case of Church being indebted to Pate, but rather Church being a defective soldier who sees in Pate, a person in authority as a commanding figure, a replacement general. It could be that while he was imprisoned, Church seethed while Sedna and Alice were able to develop in their own ways. It could also be a case of Church being the murderously psychotic Lennie Small to Pate's slightly in over his head George Milton.

Who knows? Not us, yet, anyway.

retrosteve:

--- Quote from: brasca on 14 May 2017, 13:49 ---Then how would you explain Pate's control over Church?  If Church was just following him until he could satisfy his revenge then he wouldn't back down once he got it.

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Every movie or book plot ever has someone refraining from doing something they want to do, because someone else tells them not to. Common reasons include
* Love
* Blackmail
* Curiosity
* Fear
* Loyalty
* Allegiance / Fealty
* Belief in authority
* Sense of duty

All of these are way more interesting than programming.

brasca:

--- Quote from: sitnspin on 14 May 2017, 13:53 ---Honor? Gratitude? There are countless reasons why Church might follow and protect Pate. His desire for revenge doesn't have to have anything to do with it.

--- End quote ---

Could be and if so then he has a stronger code than most.  He could've abandoned Pate, killed Alice, then Gavia, Sedna, and Ardent leaving no witnesses to say otherwise except himself.  Perhaps he's not completely devoid of any honor or integrity.  In fact his tenacious adherence to a leader no matter how terrible is why he was sealed up.  Maybe all he believes in is his code of honor.

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