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Alice Grove MCDLT - MAY 2017
A small perverse otter:
--- Quote from: Tova on 18 May 2017, 16:03 ---I'm keeping my mind open, but to be honest, the 'rescuing a being enslaves them to you' theory doesn't ring true to me.
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I agree, that seems a stretch to me, too.
I wonder if the original creators of the super-soldiers had some kind of explicit control over them? If I'd built Church, I'd have made damned sure I could make him do what I wanted, and, more importantly, make him unable to turn on me. If Pate got ahold of that mechanism before he unearthed Church, then Church would be completely under his control, like it or not.
BenRG:
There is some difficulty that comes from understanding why Church and Alice's armour seems to be of the same design. I suspect that they originated from the same faction. So, why were they fighting? I suspect that Church was designed too well - Nearly-indestructible, self-repairing, self-powering and (most fatally) with no control backdoors. Simply put, there was no way to override him once active. His creators were, of course, 100% sure that their control over him was failsafe. They were wrong and Alice was possibly the last of hundreds of super soldiers that were needed to stop him. All the others fell so that she would have the chance to deliver that last hammer-blow.
I suspect that Church was genetically programmed to seek out and destroy all perceptible enemies but had a dangerously imprecise IFF coding. This meant that he ended up slaughtering whole populations because they were insufficiently zealous and fanatical for the cause.
OldGoat:
--- Quote from: A small perverse otter on 21 May 2017, 08:33 ---
I wonder if the original creators of the super-soldiers had some kind of explicit control over them? If I'd built Church, I'd have made damned sure I could make him do what I wanted, and, more importantly, make him unable to turn on me. If Pate got ahold of that mechanism before he unearthed Church, then Church would be completely under his control, like it or not.
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Perhaps the Warhammer is that mechanism.
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: retrosteve on 19 May 2017, 14:57 ---
--- Quote from: brasca on 18 May 2017, 21:50 ---
--- Quote from: Tova on 18 May 2017, 16:03 ---I'm keeping my mind open, but to be honest, the 'rescuing a being enslaves them to you' theory doesn't ring true to me.
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It's how genies and some other mythical figures work and seeing as how Church is old and powerful enough to be one I wouldn't rule it out.
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I'd be pretty disappointed if I was reading a science-fiction story and in the last chapter it turned out to be a fantasy.
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A. Last chapter? What? Why?
B. I'm pretty sure this has always had elements of both sci-fi and fantasy.
blt:
--- Quote from: Stoutfellow on 17 May 2017, 09:56 ---True, but she also called Gavia a demon in the same speech, which was addressed to children. I think we can take both statements with a large dollop of salt.
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http://www.alicegrove.com/post/115349455399/think-about-it
Alice also refers to herself as a witch here too, speaking to Gavia and not her townspeople. I think she puts more stake in the "witch" thing than just irony.
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