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Alice Grove MCDLT - June 2017
DaiJB:
OK, everything I'm about to type is just my opinion but:
I think Pate is just deluding himself.
He's got ONE millennia-old soldier in his pocket - is it likely Church is the only one? After all, we've already met Alice, another front-line soldier (though admittedly she isn't as powerful).
But Pate thinks that means he'll be able to just walk through any opposition? Just a bit naive.
The Praeses are supposedly the source of Ardent's weird tech-enhancing ability* - in which case, does Pate really think they don't know what it is capable of doing? They would probably expect someone to drop in...
*(Of course, the Praeses could have also been manipulated by some unknown power - the missing AIs perhaps?)
Pate really doesn't know what's going on - note his reference to 'magic space fairy' :D
Finally, he talks a high-and-mighty speech about the fate of humanity - but 'humanity' is the next person you meet.
Pate has proven that he is quite happy to kill the next person he meets...
sitnspin:
--- Quote from: A small perverse otter --- She *has*, in fact, kept her village in something like a less-than-ideal stasis.
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What is less than ideal about it? They are safe and happy, seem to be healthy and they are living a environmentally friendly and sustainable lifestyle. Sounds pretty ideal to me.
Ghanima Atreides:
--- Quote from: DaiJB on 04 Jun 2017, 20:44 ---
Finally, he talks a high-and-mighty speech about the fate of humanity - but 'humanity' is the next person you meet.
Pate has proven that he is quite happy to kill the next person he meets...
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What Pate really wants are the comforts and power of his ancestors. It probably galls him to think of the wonders and delights pre-Blink people used to enjoy and he can only dream of, stuck in his pre-industrial world. He may envision himself being hailed as the "saviour" of mankind when he restores advanced technology to Earth and being promptly declared ruler of the world or some other megalomaniac fantasy. I doubt he truly cares about the welfare of mankind beyond what benefits him in some way, and is certainly willing to do anything to get his way.
On Earth, Church made him practically invincible, but I do think he's made a miscalculation in thinking the same will be true up there in space, with the unknown element of the Praeses and possibly even more powerful entities playing a role. He has only a vague idea of what he's getting himself into yet he rushed blindly into it just the same.
Is it cold in here?:
>What is less than ideal about it?
Yes, they do seem to be healthy and safe in a sustainable economy.
It's a scarcity economy. Alice might argue that it's ideal. I'm not convinced, and I pity the children of the village who look up at the stars at night and long to go there.
brasca:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 04 Jun 2017, 16:38 ---Ahhh but do remember what happened to both Mollari and the Centauri when he got his wish.. A sword cuts both ways brasco..
But Pate does have a point.
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Yes wish is why if an emissary shows up next to make a deal with Pate I don't see it ending well for him.
--- Quote from: DaiJB on 04 Jun 2017, 20:44 ---OK, everything I'm about to type is just my opinion but:
I think Pate is just deluding himself.
He's got ONE millennia-old soldier in his pocket - is it likely Church is the only one? After all, we've already met Alice, another front-line soldier (though admittedly she isn't as powerful).
But Pate thinks that means he'll be able to just walk through any opposition? Just a bit naive.
The Praeses are supposedly the source of Ardent's weird tech-enhancing ability* - in which case, does Pate really think they don't know what it is capable of doing? They would probably expect someone to drop in...
*(Of course, the Praeses could have also been manipulated by some unknown power - the missing AIs perhaps?)
Pate really doesn't know what's going on - note his reference to 'magic space fairy' :D
Finally, he talks a high-and-mighty speech about the fate of humanity - but 'humanity' is the next person you meet.
Pate has proven that he is quite happy to kill the next person he meets...
--- End quote ---
Interesting theory, but I think Pate is willing to make that gamble. Where else can he go in life. He is the master of a super soldier and quite possibly a small nation, but that's about it. Even with Church and presumably an army of regular soldiers at his command his reach is limited as is his ability to reverse engineer technology into something that can benefit his kingdom. He sought an audience with the praeses to obtain advanced technology and may still get it despite Gavia just turning the tables on him. If she obeys the praeses and they are willing to form an alliance with Pate then he'll get what he wants because the situation is perfect for the praeses to take over Earth. Alice is in check and Church answers to Pate. However, we may find out that whoever caused the Blink, let's call it Blinky instructed the praeses to never interfere with Earth and they've adhered to this agreement. Blinky may be the real power behind everything and someone neither Pate nor the Praeses can defy.
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