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WCDT Strips 3506 to 3510 (19 June to 23 June 2017)
sitnspin:
--- Quote from: USS Martenclaire on 22 Jun 2017, 02:52 ---So it's not okay for someone to have sexual preferences, or to be warmly attached to a group without wanting to sleep with them?
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This implies that trans people are of a different group than other people of their gender. If you are attracted to a particular gender and reject whole cloth the very idea of dating someone in that gender group solely on the fact that they are trans, even though you find the physically and emotionally attractive, then yea, I'd say that strongly suggests a level of bigotry. Not all bigotry is blatant hatred.
Tova:
I stand by my opinion that Marten is the more insecure one here. He needs to learn to simply reassure instead of freaking out like this. I mean, I can understand why he does given his past. But the more he freaks out, the less liable Claire will be to express any minor insecurities that do come up (which are only human, lets face it). That is how minor insecurities can grow into major ones.
--- Quote from: Case on 22 Jun 2017, 03:05 ---Someone seems to have a penchant ...
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Case, you are such a peasant.
USS Martenclaire:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 22 Jun 2017, 00:40 ---
--- Quote from: Clubman8 on 22 Jun 2017, 00:05 ---
--- Quote from: comicalArchitect on 21 Jun 2017, 20:04 ---If you would otherwise date someone but won't because they're trans, you're a transphobe.
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Transphobia begins and ends with hatred or bigotry of transgendered people. You cannot call someone transphobic because they choose not to date trans people. Applying the same logic, every straight person is homophobic for refusing to date a gay member of their sex lmao.
I didn't know my support of my trans friends was voided because I wouldn't sleep with them.
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If you treat trans people differently than you do cispeople based solely on them being trans, then yes you are transphobic. "But I have friends who are trans" is not a get out of jail free card.
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I deleted my original post as it was rather combative and not very helpful. The thing is, in this context, gender identity is irrelevant. Because it's not about the person being trans, lesbian, gay, redhead, tall, large or anything like that - it's about who *you* are attracted to. Your personal preferences - possibly the most personal and intimate preferences you can have. As such, its a core part of who you are. Having someone dictate who you can and can't be attracted to (with obvious exceptions) can be just as oppressive as having someone dictate your gender identity.
swapna:
What the shit, Claire. "Moments like this"? You mean when you left your boyfriend to sit on his own while you dug up dirt about his past (painful) relationship/breakup he does not want to talk about?
And Marten stayed and waited for her, and then was open about his feelings and reassured her?
.... yeah, I can see how "Moments like this" might trigger insecurities.
Regarding the transphopic debate: not dating someone because they're Trans is just as well a reason as not dating them because they have brown eyes or because you don't like their voice or because you don't want kids and they do. Seriously, people's dating preferences are their own. Implying that Trans people are less date-able because they're Trans, however, is transphopic.
Case:
--- Quote from: Tova on 22 Jun 2017, 03:24 ---
--- Quote from: Case on 22 Jun 2017, 03:05 ---Someone seems to have a penchant ...
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Case, you are such a peasant.
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A pleasant peasant, messire ...
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