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Alice Grove MCDLT - THE END...?
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote ---Alice was a weapon, one designed to destroy any enemies in her path. Pate was just another in a very long line of enemies.
Consider that before we judge Alice.
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She was able to spare Ardent's life even though he was an ongoing danger. She has free will to the extent any of us does. She could have refrained from murdering someone who had been consummately nerfed. She has probably asked herself why she didn't pull back during the war, before she became a thousand Hitlers.
Not that it's his fault or justifies his death, but Mr. Pate might have stopped to think that it reduced his chances of living to remind her of how many times she'd killed before.
A small perverse otter:
--- Quote from: Tova on 11 Jul 2017, 18:54 ---
--- Quote from: DaiJB on 11 Jul 2017, 18:33 ---I wonder - would Alice have let Pate live if he had just admitted that he had done things wrong?
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Personally, I doubt it.
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Yeah, me neither. I don't see Alice as being terribly obsessed with the notion of "redemption", her own or anybody else's.
WareWolf:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 11 Jul 2017, 19:14 ---
Not that it's his fault or justifies his death, but Mr. Pate might have stopped to think that it reduced his chances of living to remind her of how many times she'd killed before.
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"You're a mass murderer."
"Yes." DEATHSTRIKE.
A small perverse otter:
If all the Praeses' simulations are equally 'real', then maybe Pate missed a key point: humankind is bound to this Hell in this simulation, but maybe not in all simulations? Perhaps there are simulations in which he becomes a dictator, and the outcome is not very nice.
dexeron:
--- Quote from: Tova on 11 Jul 2017, 16:44 ---And now we see Alice is fundamentally the same. Fortunately, she is compelled to serve humanity,
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That actually makes her more potentially terrifying than Church. Her only moral compass is "that which serves humanity." Any act, no matter how violent, no matter how depraved, is permissible if she can rationalize it as being ultimately in the best interests of humanity.
Asimov's "Zeroth Law." Leto's "Golden Path." All serve the greater good. All are, ultimately, necessary. But all are freaking terrifying to the average person who might inadvertently stumble into the path of their unfeeling, pitiless, unstoppable wheels.
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