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Alice Grove MCDLT - THE END...?
fayelovesbubbles:
--- Quote from: OldGoat on 12 Jul 2017, 10:31 ---Comic's up!
Looks like Gavia is applying Nanobot Healing Mojo to Sedna's right shoulder, so I'm assuming she lives. She does look pretty out of it, though. If Church isn't dead, he's going to need some help recovering, too.
And Alice still has lizard eyes, but they're back to blue.
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Nah, Church can rot.
A Duck:
So it appears the praeses are actually alien. In fact, they act a lot like benevolent ME Reapers.
The "third party" theory some people were bouncing around here also seems to be true.
Now the question is: are they extraterrestrial aliens, or do they simply come from a dimension outside the "real" dimension?
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 12 Jul 2017, 11:06 ---
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 11 Jul 2017, 09:04 ---After all, who really wants to live forever?
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...me? Lots of people? I genuinely don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to.
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I never understood that whole argument either. Immortality sounds like so much fun!
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 12 Jul 2017, 11:06 ---
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 11 Jul 2017, 09:04 ---After all, who really wants to live forever?
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...me? Lots of people? I genuinely don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to.
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Okay, lets just pick one person living forever and look at how it might go wrong.
- Everyone you know will eventually die, leaving you alone. This will colour your view of the world and the lives of those around you, after all, why form relationships when they're doomed to end with a headstone. Why love when you watch your partner age and die in the blink of a temporal eye? Or would you want to carry those memories with you forever?
- Immortality does not guarantee perfect health or eternal youth. Look at how the world's oldest people. Now imagine what you might become at 200, or 500 or 10000 years. Likewise there's no guarantee that you would completely immune to illness. Suppose you could not die from illness, but you still had to suffer it. What if you developed cancer and could never be rid of it? CJD? Parkinsons? Imagine an eternity where your body would not be under your control.
- There only so many places in the world. You can only see something new once. How often can one be struck with awe of the sunrise of the Serengeti before it becomes "Meh". After a couple of centuries, it just gets horribly monotonous and repetitive.
- You might see the fall of your civilisation. The ideas of your people, their hopes and aspirations will mean nothing in the flow of time. Their monuments, their art, literature and music will crumble to dust, leaving you as a living remnant. The last monument to a forgotten people.
- Would you want thousands of years of memories? There's a theory that why the human brain is far more powerful than most computers, there is a point where the brain cannot form those synapses for memories and that it actually can't keep memories in the long term. Suppose you have a child only to one day realise you can't exactly remember the colour of their hair? Or the fact that they died several thousand years ago?
- Let's say for a moment, that you can leave Earth and travel the galaxy and the universe. Even there in the openness of space, you will see the limits of mortality. Planets die. Suns will all go supernova eventually. Galaxies crash into each other. Eventually you will see the end of the universe. The Big Rip. Or maybe Heat Death. Possibly the Big Crunch. Who knows?
- Maybe your immorality will leave you immutable. Maybe you will see the Human species end and its descendants rise. You will be the one left behind. You will become as simple to them as Sahelanthropus was to us, an evolutionary remnant, left behind n the dust.
You think immortality would be amazing? Why? Because there will always be a tomorrow?
I think the limited time we have means that we must always look ahead because we can't guarantee we'll be here tomorrow. There are some fates worse than death, immortality is right up there.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote ---It's looking like Pate's weapon, Church, will at some point revive which will again make Pate an active threat
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Ahh. There have been hints Church is alive. "Imminent and otherwise unavoidable danger of death or grave bodily harm" is a standard that Pate meets if Church is going to regenerate. It's the Anglo-Saxon legal standard for killing in self-defense. So that could be an ethical justification.
"He needed killin' " is not.
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Alice More: Arrest him!
More: Why, what has he done?
Margaret More: He's bad!
More: There is no law against that.
Will Roper: There is! God's law!
More: Then God can arrest him.
Alice: While you talk, he's gone!
More: And go he should, if he was the Devil himself, until he broke the law!
Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law!
More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast– man's laws, not God's– and if you cut them down—and you're just the man to do it—do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law for my own safety's sake.
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JimC:
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 12 Jul 2017, 11:06 ---
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 11 Jul 2017, 09:04 ---After all, who really wants to live forever?
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...me? Lots of people? I genuinely don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to.
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You will when you get older. Swift's Struldbrugs are a very real curse. Multiple lifetimes worth of joys also means multiple lifetimes worth of regrets.
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