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Alice Grove MCDLT - THE END...?
starkruzr:
--- Quote from: USS Martenclaire on 18 Jul 2017, 11:57 ---Poor Alice. She's essentially about to watch history repeat itself.
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Or, not. She probably THINKS that's the case. But there's no hope in Alice's ideology, no room for growth. The AIs apparently disagree.
Kugai:
Reminds me of Avon at the end of Blake's Seven
SubaruStephen:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jul 2017, 08:23 ---A being with Alice's powers having a psychological breakdown.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Powers (season 2)
brasca:
There's still so much we don't know about the war and at the rate things are going any speculation could be quickly proven wrong, but here goes.
The war was between a faction of humanity that believed in the advancement of artificial intelligence and another that believed in genetic engineering. I think it's safe to say Alice was a part of the latter. Now the AI faction would have been a mix of AIs and their human supporters which is why this AI that Alice suspects is behind all of this did this as a form of reparations. They didn't want to forsake the humans that supported them, but probably realized that humanity was on the brink of extinction whereas they could just download their consciousness to one chassis after another. Sure a few might be destroyed here and there, but by and large they'd live to fight another day. Now perhaps at some point when it seemed like the genetically engineered faction was on the verge of victory because the AI faction was just feigning imminent defeat as a holding action as Alice speculates is when infighting began. Why else would Alice be facing down Church 5,000 years ago? Perhaps the genetically engineered faction splintered and started fighting among themselves. Meanwhile the AI faction secretly made contact with the praeses who were just passing through our solar system and likely to keep on going when they saw what Earth had become. The AIs wanted to leave, but they didn't want to abandon their human allies and probably realized that editing Earth would starve millions so they made a deal with the Praeses. They edited Earth and deposited the consciousness of their human allies with the Praeses. They probably knew how to do that since they are largely a conscious entity and figured out how to replicate the process. Meanwhile the genetically engineered faction was left behind on a rejuvenated Earth, but had to start all over without any advanced technology. Fortunately, the number of humans left on Earth was a manageable number so there wasn't massive starvation. The AIs also might've considered it fitting since this was the faction that tried to exterminate them. However, after 5 millennia they wanted to pay back the descendants of their allies and perhaps let bygones be bygones with the Earth dwellers by starting the restoration of humanity.
Now it remains to be seen what the plan is or if any of what I wrote will come true, but perhaps Pate and Church were the real target all along. There may be more people like Pate on Earth, but I would hope Church is one of a kind and if he can be permanently incapacitated then any other Pates who subvert the seedlings can be easily dealt with by Alice. Although she's having a breakdown over the terrible possibilities of all this she is in a position she never had before. She can serve humanity by leading it. It's something she doesn't want to do, but will feel obligated to atone for all those she killed and prevent the mistakes of the past from repeating.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: brasca on 18 Jul 2017, 20:23 ---There's still so much we don't know about the war and at the rate things are going any speculation could be quickly proven wrong, but here goes.
The war was between a faction of humanity that believed in the advancement of artificial intelligence and another that believed in genetic engineering. I think it's safe to say Alice was a part of the latter. Now the AI faction would have been a mix of AIs and their human supporters which is why this AI that Alice suspects is behind all of this did this as a form of reparations. They didn't want to forsake the humans that supported them, but probably realized that humanity was on the brink of extinction whereas they could just download their consciousness to one chassis after another. Sure a few might be destroyed here and there, but by and large they'd live to fight another day. Now perhaps at some point when it seemed like the genetically engineered faction was on the verge of victory because the AI faction was just feigning imminent defeat as a holding action as Alice speculates is when infighting began. Why else would Alice be facing down Church 5,000 years ago? Perhaps the genetically engineered faction splintered and started fighting among themselves. Meanwhile the AI faction secretly made contact with the praeses who were just passing through our solar system and likely to keep on going when they saw what Earth had become. The AIs wanted to leave, but they didn't want to abandon their human allies and probably realized that editing Earth would starve millions so they made a deal with the Praeses. They edited Earth and deposited the consciousness of their human allies with the Praeses. They probably knew how to do that since they are largely a conscious entity and figured out how to replicate the process. Meanwhile the genetically engineered faction was left behind on a rejuvenated Earth, but had to start all over without any advanced technology. Fortunately, the number of humans left on Earth was a manageable number so there wasn't massive starvation. The AIs also might've considered it fitting since this was the faction that tried to exterminate them. However, after 5 millennia they wanted to pay back the descendants of their allies and perhaps let bygones be bygones with the Earth dwellers by starting the restoration of humanity.
Now it remains to be seen what the plan is or if any of what I wrote will come true, but perhaps Pate and Church were the real target all along. There may be more people like Pate on Earth, but I would hope Church is one of a kind and if he can be permanently incapacitated then any other Pates who subvert the seedlings can be easily dealt with by Alice. Although she's having a breakdown over the terrible possibilities of all this she is in a position she never had before. She can serve humanity by leading it. It's something she doesn't want to do, but will feel obligated to atone for all those she killed and prevent the mistakes of the past from repeating.
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I was thinking along the same lines as your story, and frankly, it is more or less the only one that kinda makes sense. It still leaves some questions unanswered of course regarding the nightwalker and how Alice/Sedna know so much about the Praeses, but the story as a whole is pretty decent using this explanation.
Curious to see how Jeph wraps things up though! :)
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