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WCDT Strips 3546 to 3550 (14th to 18th August 2017)
castn:
--- Quote from: themacnut on 16 Aug 2017, 07:23 ---I'm sorry Milanya, but that approach would have gone badly as well, for one simple reason; even assuming he could pull it off with his limited social experience, sooner or later the conversation would have turned to how Winslow got his new chassis. Once May learned it was gifted to him, her resentment over her own barely-functional chassis that she can barely afford to maintain would flare up, and things would go downhill from there.
The only way Winslow could have avoided the resulting angry outburst would have been to quickly exit stage right before May could ask any questions. Really, his best overall move would have been to avoid May altogether for as long as possible.
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I mean, the best approach would have probably been to let her know of his new chassis in a social setting where the purpose of their meeting is not to show off his chassis. But maybe the better way to look at it is this: there isn't a full proof method to avoid a rude or angry outbursts where privilege is concerned. That's how May (and a lot of people discriminated by governmental or societal standards) feel. Bitter, angry, vindictively rude. And those in a position of privilege rarely have the right to correct this unless it's directly harmful because... like, how do you begin to lecture someone on that aspect of their lives when you inherently know so little about their circumstances? Winslow doesn't know what it was like for May, he just knows she's had a much harder time than him.
It isn't about not causing a bad reaction, it's about knowing how to handle the bad reaction. Winslow does it pretty well IMO. He doesn't tell May she's an ass or that she's wrong. He just leaves, and he runs into Bubbles (she also doesn't condemn May's reaction) who is happy to help him find a productive way to deal with his hurt feelings.
This is the "ideal" scenario for someone whose privilege has been checked, because he isn't trying to invalidate May's experience or words just because she's been rude/mean.
ChipNoir:
--- Quote from: swapna on 16 Aug 2017, 08:45 ---I think the conversation was very predictable, and of course it's not just May's fault for being an abrasive Ass. We've never seen Winslow and May interact one-on-one before; they can't be close friends, if they are friends at all.
Which means that the only reason Winslow would seek her out - not in private, but on her job where she can't leave, and he obviously doesn't want to buy something - is to show off his new chassis. To an acquaintance. For the sole purpose of validation and congratulations and showing off, he doesn't ask or care how she's doing at all.
... even Momo couldn't fake being super excited and happy for him, and she's basically sugar sprinkles personified.
Yes, May is an abrasive asshole, and she could've been nicer, but I understand. I also understand how happy and excited Winslow is, but sometimes you need a jerk to tell you that you have your head up your own ass so far that you can't see the world around you. Bubbles is just the right person to help Winslow find meaningful things to do except being Hanners' companion, since her conversation isn't a "check your privilege"-thing. It's a "now that you're aware of the resources you have, wanna do something good with them?"-conversation, which is what Winslow desperately needs.
Re: May deserves the shit she's in: if you start denying people basic healthcare and stick them in a carch-22 situation where they can't avoid breaking the terms of their parole either way, strip them of their dignity (the weird AI companion thing with Dale? Sticking her in a body that might appeal to the "customer"? Making her completely dependant on his survey responses that he can use as a threat? Yes, Dale was nice. He's also not the norm), robbing them of their body (remember, she just wanted to see the stars, so she must have been in a situation where she had no sensors to perceive them) and say that's fair and her own fault... We just won't agree on that, ever, to put it mildly.
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All of this. ALL OF IT!
OldGoat:
Where will the tea take Winslow?
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 16 Aug 2017, 00:55 ---This story arc is turning real ugly. [...] Jeph's planned idea for the arc is turning toxic.
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"Ugly"? "Toxic"? So far all we've seen is a newly mobile Winslow making a bit of an ass of himself and getting chewed out over it. Let's see how Jeph deals with it before judging the arc as whole, eh?
--- Quote ---your typical bitch
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cesariojpn:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 16 Aug 2017, 01:34 ---With regard to Winslow, Jeph has been going through a phase recently of switching primary characters (Marten, Claire, Hannelore and Dora) into supporting roles and bring secondary or even background characters (Renee and Elliott) forwards and giving them their own distinct primary arcs. So using Winslow as part of his current evident intent to use QC to explore how AIs as well as their distinct needs and culture would really work in a near-contemporary North America is entirely explicable.
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I'm kinda getting the feeling that Jeph is just throwing a handful of darts onto a dart board and seeing what sticks. And then trying to mold it into a storyline, but then is afraid to go any further without offending someone with a loud voice that is triggered by the wrong use of There/Their/They're or something petty or minor. Alot of these arcs are either left hanging, rerouted elsewhere (see: Faye/Bubbles being shipped together till Jeph shoved Elliot in between, and fans liking Corpsewitch, even thought she was a villain) or are "neatly" resolved in a few strips.
He kinda got lucky with Claire and the relationship with Marten, but fell flat after "You and Me." Now he's trying to recapture the lightning in the jar, but can only muster static electricity.
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 16 Aug 2017, 10:59 ---
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Remember, we don't tolerate gendered insults here.
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For a (fictitious) character that has attitude that is negative 96.3% of the time, you can't escape people labeling it in such terms.
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