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WCDT Strips 3546 to 3550 (14th to 18th August 2017)

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Emperor Norton:

--- Quote from: Shjade on 18 Aug 2017, 10:58 ---The first statement is true. Of course, pointing out someone has privilege of which they seem to be unaware or refusing to recognize isn't smacking them with it, and suggesting that it is really just shines a light on how much you want to refuse the truth of the situation.

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And I think you painting what May did as "pointing out someone has privilege" really just shines a light on how much you want to refuse the truth of the situation.

What Bubbles did, that was pointing out he had privilege. What May did? That was attack him and make him feel like a piece of shit. And she continued to insult him behind his back.

Shjade:

--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 18 Aug 2017, 11:31 ---
--- Quote from: Shjade on 18 Aug 2017, 10:58 ---The first statement is true. Of course, pointing out someone has privilege of which they seem to be unaware or refusing to recognize isn't smacking them with it, and suggesting that it is really just shines a light on how much you want to refuse the truth of the situation.

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And I think you painting what May did as "pointing out someone has privilege" really just shines a light on how much you want to refuse the truth of the situation.

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Um, no. I'm not talking about May. I'm addressing the person talking about how they feel "privilege" is used in larger conversations.

May wasn't trying to have a conversation about Winslow's role in society or social justice.

Magniras:

--- Quote from: Shjade on 18 Aug 2017, 10:58 ---The second statement is some #NotAllX bullshit. If a self-described "ally" is "alienated" by having their privilege called out, they weren't an ally in the first place.

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Why would anyone ever feel the need to "call out" the privilege of who is trying to use their advantages to back a cause they believe in?

Shjade:

--- Quote from: Magniras on 18 Aug 2017, 11:46 ---Why would anyone ever feel the need to "call out" the privilege of who is trying to use their advantages to back a cause they believe in?

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Short answer: Exactly.

Long answer: It's possible to think you're helping when, in reality, you're not. For a mundane example, suggesting people being harassed online should "ignore the trolls," when that's a) not really helpful or constructive and b) indicative that you're either a person with a different kind of resilience/response to that behavior than the person you're talking to, or in a position where you've never had to worry about/deal with that much negative attention yet feel you have advice to offer about it. Either way, you're not really being the supportive, understanding "ally" you think you are by essentially disregarding a person's problems in telling them they just shouldn't look at them and ta-da the problem will go away on its own. It's the kind of thing a person might do to feel like they're helping, which isn't the same thing as actually helping. And it generally comes from a place of privilege, or ignorance, or both.

Emperor Norton:
If you've never had someone try to use accusations of privilege to invalidate your opinion, then you are, in my opinion, lucky.

I've literally had people try to shut down my opinion on LGBT stuff, when I'm actually LGBT because they thought I was straight and accused me of straight privilege.

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